Give yourselves credit, this movement started right here: Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles is the winner of E! Online’s Save One Show Poll! And it wasn’t even close! We should be very proud of ourselves, but we’ve still got two week until upfront announcements so keep getting the word out there!
When the results of over 300,000 votes came in, E! called up Josh for a word with our head honcho. “I think I speak for everybody who works on the show when I say thank you to the fans for their tireless work to save our show. I think it really goes to show that there’s a really hard-core, emotional, passionate fanbase for Terminator that is larger and more widespread than people give us credit for.”
Furthermore, Zap2it ran their own Keep ‘em or Kill ‘em poll and we came out on top there too! Check out the results and continue voting!
Even if we end up going down they certainly can’t say we went down without a fight! Because as Kyle Reese once explained, “Terminator is out there. It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop…”
SCC fans casted over 150,000 vote in 3 days for the final round. The first round was over a 3 week spand, and we had over 50% of the votes. You do the math….
NO SURRENDER!
if you have redirecting loop problem, here’s a working link for eonline http://tinyurl.com/ceepkz
No fate but what you make!!
HELL YEAH!! I’m pumped……
FOX Execs. TAKE NOTE!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, a huge german Fanbase stand side by side with Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles and still, we fight for it.
Greetings from good old Germany to all Chroniclers around the world.
hell yeah, Terminator fans will not stop
So awesome. I hope this will have an impact. And thanks to everyone who participated with us in the votes, you guys rock.
Lets go TSSC.We want a Season 3.
Nice. For the record I don’t wish ill on chuck or most of the other shows on the list. there are very few shows I hate enough to just want them gone, and when I do its usually to make room for shows I Do like, like shutting down Idol for Terminator and Dollhouse. but canceling chuck wouldn’t hurt or help our cause, as its a different network. Ive seen fans of both Terminator and Chuck get way too defensive and immature about the whole thing.
But I’m glad we won, and by such a huge margin too, and I’m still hopeful we’ll get picked up.
May 1st, 2009 at 10:36 am
Zap2it poll, keep it or kill it:
Keep it 87% (26298 votes)
Kill it 13% (4037 votes)
Total Votes: 30335
http://www.zap2it.com/news/custom/photogallery/tv/zap-photogallery-2009-bubble-shows,0,1828400.photogallery?index=19
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The problem with Chuck is it won’t be missed if it gets cancelled. There are so many similar shows like that coming out every year. Check out Reaper, almost the same format.
If Terminator gets cancelled we won’t have any replacements. Dollhouse, c’mon, that is not even remotely interesting. Fringe, already saw a better version of that years ago.
Only Lost fills a bit of the gap but it still won’t compensate. We need Terminator in our lives!
New season, new date and time slot (put TSCC back on Sunday), new episodes, the writing is on the wall all Fox (or some other network or cable channel) has to do is read it.
Question: With the tying up of so many loose ends and the scattering of the characters across time in the final episode what should the storyline for the new season look like?
Congrats everyone, we earned a hard fought victory.
However, as Hadley indicates, we may not win. We need to be prepared for defeat, I am still looking for some brainstorming. Thanks to everyone who contributed I will post a synapsis of everyone’s input closer to the 18th.
Our best bet for plan B is convincing WB that keeping the show alive on cable will benefit the franchise as a whole and increase their profits.
Sarah will have to look for Danny Dyson.
Maybe they’ll go back and forth seeing how what Sarah does in the past affects things happening with John in the future.
Maybe they’ll show John learn that people are all that matter like Sarah taught him then send him back to her with new purpose.
Maybe he’ll fall for Allison, then lose her and see the replacement (not a version of his) Cameron in a new way.
They already missed stopping Skynet’s birth, they could learn things about it and go back to try to stop it again.
Are you guys all following @skynextpodcast on Twitter?
Hell yes! That feels vindicating! Nice work everyone! I’m damn proud to be fighting to save this show! I absolutely love the cast of this show and want to continue to see them working together. I voted like a maniac, as I know you all did! Congrats!
Mwahaha! 53 percent of their base belongs to us! Damn, we’re good!
good job all
More season 3 Please! More Cameron please! Fitting we get the news of our victory on a Friday. Do all we can between now and May 18th!
Yes! We rock. Way to go everyone!
I think Kyle Reese’s statement should now talk about us (the fans/The Resistance). “The Resistance is out there. They can’t be bargained with. They can’t be reasoned with. They don’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And they absolutely will not stop…”
Our new motto!
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE ARE STRONGE……….
TERMINATOR IS ALIVE!!!
KEEP VOTING!!!!
@Jon
Only losers and victims prepare for defeat. It is not an option, fight to the death!!!
Czarfore, the only time the show was on Sunday was when it was in reruns. why would they ever put it on Sunday? its as bad if not worse a night as Friday. it needs to stay off the weekend in general and put on a major night like Tuesday Wednesday or something. I would say Monday but there’s a lot already there with Heroes chuck and house. idol will be ending its season soon enough so I think putting it on one of those slots would be good.
Time to put the next foot forward people! S-T-R-A-T-E-G-Y spells victory for ALL of us. We’re MAKING our fate as we go.
FOX should use this show as a tie-in with Fringe.
YAHOOOOOO!!! :DD
You CAN’T stop The Resistance!
Season Three here we come…
*flees to write more save tscc letters*
The pilot was broadcast on a Sunday.
Gnothi Seauton (SE 1 EP 1) was the next day (Monday).
You can build viewership on Sunday nights, because no one goes out then.
Fridays it’s impossible.
job well done TSCC fans feels great being part of such a great resistance
Thanks for a ‘fresh post’ Hadley!
Time to chime(in):
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Chuck-Southland-Terminator-1005616.aspx
savethescc.com is sponsoring a fan video campaign.
http://www.savethescc.com/resistance.html
submissions are due by May 6th
Hadley - why are you hedging? “Even if we end up going down…”? I hope it’s not because you know something that you’re not sharing.
Yes~! Awesome work my fellow resistance! =D
I’ve just posted a piece of my mind there too. Some people can be such sore losers…’ Vote for shows with higher chance’? What?? People wouldn’t be voting like mad for a show with ‘higher chance’ would they? TSCC totally deserved the win. Even after that 2nd round maneuver they pulled, we still won (and with a higher percentage!) so we won fair and square imho. *pats everyone on the back*
@Logan
Hadley’s just playing it straight. It’s up to FOX and WB, pure-and-simple. SPREAD the digital WORD, folks! NO FATE!!!!!!!
Excellent job, everyone. I hope our persistence and victory pays off.
“Even if we end up going down” WTF? I thought the future depended on winning this poll, and we won it by a MAJORITY! We won the important poll, we’re writing letters, we are doing everything we can, we can’t be stopped. After all this effort and time, if we do end up going down there is going to be some serious hell to pay, no one jerks me around like that with impunity. I was hoping for more positive news as a result of this. Another network- cool, comics- lame, if the only option is for the show to be on another network, that would be just as awesome as it returning on Fox, cut costs pitch it well whatever. But hell yeah, we won and I’m glad to be part of it! Season 3 is inevitable!
Calm down Jack. Every POSITIVE achievement we make has an effect like a stone dropped into a pond. Watch the ripples grow, my friend…
You’re right Wolfie, I just didn’t appreciate the subtle negativity I perceived out of JF, regarding our chances in the E! interview, or the “Even if we end up going down” line. But you’re right, keep fighting the good fight.
If what JF says is true, we should all be PRAYING for some lame-assed PILOTS this season! Here’s to hoping they do a ‘reimagining’ of the A-Team, or the ‘Dukes of Hazzard’! Maybe they can steal a few more BBC programs like the Office or Life on Mars again. Originality is KING in Hollywood!
Just hang in there, guys! Just a couple of weeks to go, be positive, keep sending those emails and letters. =)
When TSCC is threatened, even the Resistance and Skynet can work together for that common goal of renewal. When Season 3 begins, we can get right back to fighting each other.
Quote:
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Yeah, a huge german Fanbase stand side by side with Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles and still, we fight for it.
Greetings from good old Germany to all Chroniclers around the world.”
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Signed
I see myself checking this blog every few hours
Show must go on, and I think it will do!
Awesome Onkel Feix!
Glad to see the RESISTANCE is alive and well overseas! Rally the troops there to SAVE OUR SHOW!!!
Speaking of pilots, heard that Fox doesn’t actually have that many so hopefully they’ll decide that promoting and starting a show from zero is not as profitable as continuing with a series that has a dedicated fanbase. There’s the aftermath of Terminator Salvation to factor in too. If it’s as great as it seems, I think the movie will generate interest and thirst for more of the franchise. These new ‘recruits’ will probably be using the summer to catch up on season 1 and 2 so expect a better performance by the time season 3 comes around~ Fox, don’t be stupid and renew it already.
They would be stupid NOT to!
Yeah! we won!! Let me dedicate this victory to all Chuckie fans specially for someone called Kristin =P
THE RESISTANCE
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!! TSSC!!!!!!!! VOTE MOAR!
don’t forget the important guys..
WRITE FOX AND WB FOR ANOTHER SEASON
http://io9.com/5236443/its-not-too-late-to-save-sarah-connor - go go go
Let the buzz keep on growing.
Awesome! “Sarah Connor made me binge drink over the weekend”! I LIKE it!
AWESOME RCN! Says: pilots TV!
If any show deserved to be saved despite blips in the ratings this one is it. Surely the fact that it is likely to be attracting a much higher quality of audience (advertiser wise) than other shows must mean that Fox has to consider keeping it. I don’t suppose American Idol attracts a lot of high spending males in their 20’s and early 30’s.
Come on Fox give it another season at least…!
Aweseome news! Now digg this to get the word out there that we won.
http://digg.com/television/The_Fans_Have_Spoken_Save_Terminator
great news.. i hope the next blog post is that we have season 3!!
@Mark digged!
The future is not set, theres no fate but what we make for ourselves.
Keep fighting!
The Resistance
!!!! Way to go! Here’s hoping the Fox execs are paying attention!
Dugg it Mark.
Let the whole wide world know about T:SCC.
BTW, it made the front page of DiggIt in no time!
http://digg.com/
lets all vote where Hadley said “continue voting!”
http://www.zap2it.com/news/custom/photogallery/tv/zap-photogallery-2009-bubble-shows,0,1828400.photogallery?index=19 Lets keep voting and writing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YEAH!!!!! Terminator fans are THE BOMB DIGGITY!!! We should all be very proud. C’MON SEASON!!!
WE NEED TO VOTE WHERE HANDLEY SAID TO ON THIS POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TSCC RULES!!!
KEEP VOTING!!!!
http://www.zap2it.com/news/custom/photogallery/tv/zap-photogallery-2009-bubble-shows,0,1828400.photogallery?index=19
Together we are making the diference!!
There’s no fate but what WE make.
HANG IN THERE BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BTW, congratulations Resistance!!
KEEP IT!!
http://www.zap2it.com/news/custom/photogallery/tv/zap-photogallery-2009-bubble-shows,0,1828400.photogallery?index=19
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Keep it 87% (27881 votes)
Kill it 13% (4110 votes)
Total Votes: 31991
KEEP VOTING!!!
I posted a bulletin on myspace asking my friends and family to vote on the zap2it poll.
Now might be a good time to be sending out that long list of Fox executives people were posting some months ago as who to email and write letters to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riIHissZ_KI
a good camerjohn lovestory.
http://twitter.com/foxbroadcasting
Well, FOX themselves are acknowledging online support, so who knows, maybe this is another good sign?
It’s italian Resistance’s heavy infantry here, capt. Hadley !
We WILL NEVER SURRENDER
until we’ll get 3rd SEASON !!!
We’re the most powerful and organized fanbase allover the world !
FFFOOOXXXX AND WWAAARNNNEERRR BROOSSSSS !!!
FUCK Yeah! we did it!
@Zkylre
I think it is a good sign
@Everyone
Wasn’t Dark Angel a Fox show that moved to the WB? Anyone know how that campign was successful? Just wondering what those fans may have done.
BTW I really love Chuck it is a great show. I just had to support the better show, my apologies to Buy More.
Regarding i09 Support the sponsors-campaign
Post pictures of yourself with products that sponsored Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles there, and we’ll make sure the folks at Fox and Warner Bros. see it. You can also buy some of these products and send them to Fox or Warners.
Sources tell io9 the show’s biggest sponsors were Chrysler Dodge Ram and Verizon Wireless.
For more instructions:
http://io9.com/5236443/its-not-too-late-to-save-sarah-connor
Btw the images should be sent to this Flickr group page:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/1105265@N23/
We have done it didn’t I tell you i would win this !
forget the past
today is the day FOX will do sumthin smart!
Example of an image made by a fan after me doing this comment on i09 post after someone posted how weird it would be to have their picture taken with a jar of vaseline (one of the sponsor for the show. No I’m not kidding!)
I strongly advice to send a picture like this below to Fox. But still, it’s pretty funny (if you lean towards liking crazy manipulated images with nasty content which may never leave your memory and borders to NSFW).
Here’s my comment: regarding i09s campaign:
“The best picture the surely would turn the tide in favour of the show being renewed is:
Vaseline, a skinny naked fanboy, a big dude and a sign hanging around the fanboys neck saying “Sarah made me do it”.
The Fox people will never get that image out of their heads.”
And here’s one of the responses (I doubt a save the show campaign with images like this would be successful, also you have been warned):
http://io9.com/5236443/its-not-too-late-to-save-sarah-connor#c12526061
I don’t get why u want ppl to send that pic. Are you referencing homosexual rape/?
Sorry for anyone taking offense (You were warned) It is just an extremely bad joke from someone who responded to a crazy comment I made, responding to someone else questioning pictures with Vaseline (Vaseline is a sponsor of the show). I never though anyone would actually make an image like that.
I recommend going for more serious pictures which are already up on the Flickr group page if you want an example check the photos people have already uploaded:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/1105265@N23/
It won’t be long until some serious fans will upload some way more tasteful than “Vaseline guy” (I hope)
@Brian from Canada
Of course the sentence would say:
I strongly advice against sending a picture like this below to Fox. (just missed the against part when typing the sentence. I typ too fast sometime.
)
Sometime when trying to comment a funny/weird situation the message get a bit wrong.
Lol ok i get it now. I got the impression you were promoting the sending of the pic. I can see sending a funny picture of a nerd with vaseline and a Summer Glau poster would be cool, but the whole gay aspect to me is a big no-no.
Haha. I hope most of you guys could read between the lines in my previous posts. It was in no way made to be offensive. Just bit ironic with the motive of being funny. It’s funny though that irony is hard to type in text. I still hope most of you guys could read between the lines in my previous posts.
@Brian from Canada
Never really thought of the gay-aspect in a offensive way to attack someones sexual orientation. It was more about how extremely skewed that particular image would be compared to what the messages of the i09 campaign were. I think that also comes from making fun of situations many identify as not a common thing portrayed in media - hence it creates reaction and people tend to make fun of stuff like that.
I doubt people would make fun of it if people were used seeing people sending fan photos like that. Perhaps people would instead joke on the commonality of the whole thing - which essentially would a Seinfeld joke:
“Remember when pilot season is over and your fanboy boyfriend goes into nerd mode for his favorite TV show he’s heard may be cancelled, and he comes up with the bright idea of taking a photo of you, him and a jar of vaseline. Just because it is one of the sponsors - and for some reason he thinks it would attract attention by posing nude?”
(People laugh in recognition)
Anyway it’s going to be interesting to see what “normal” pictures fans will upload. That would probably help the campaign a little bit more than the too crazy ones.
@Matt
You say that I should be the Spicoli of the Resistance? LOL!
What does linking to that pic make you? The Dennis Rodman? Ha-ha!
It looked more like Road Warrior fanboy stuff anyway
@Wolfie
Well that depends if you also like some taste waves and some cool buds.
Nah, it’s just you way messing with Chuckies reminds me of that Han Solo-fanboy from “Fanboys” taking care of Trekkies. But hey if you also like to taste waves and some cool buds, then perhaps you are Spicoli.
Yeah I doubt Resistance fashion include those kind of accessories.
MattLive, I wasn’t implying that you were insulting anyone’s sexual orientation or w.e, I was just saying the whole concept grosses me out on a personal level
@Brian from Canada
Some laugh, some get chills, some even get strangely turned on (Not me BTW). The Vaseline guy-joke seems to have many different effects on people
Sad to say but I got turned on!
:/
Ok, let’s stop discussing about the morality of that freaking picture, we’re here to save our show!! KEEP VOTING!!
KEEP IT!!
VOTE!! VOTE!! VOTE!!!
http://www.zap2it.com/news/custom/photogallery/tv/zap-photogallery-2009-bubble-shows,0,1828400.photogallery?index=19
Together we are making the difference!!
There’s no fate but what WE make.
Whohoo! Maybe there is a market for gay nerd porn (!)
hey!!…. savethescc.com gets my video and they´ve put it into the
playlist of “SAVE SARAH CONNOR ON YOUTUBE”
check it out….. my video is called “RESISTANCE_@HECTOR—” is the 5 video…
http://www.savethescc.com/video.html
Please keep voting where Handley said to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KEEP IT!!!
http://www.zap2it.com/news/custom/photogallery/tv/zap-photogallery-2009-bubble-shows,0,1828400.photogallery?index=19
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Keep it 88% (30647 votes)
Kill it 12% (4146 votes)
Total Votes: 34793
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KEEP VOTING!!!
Vote for Summer (who’s sporting the infamous Purple Leather Jacket)!
http://www.tv.com/favorite-tv-stars/female/index.html?tag=topslot;image
Yesssss!!!
FOX WE NEED SEASON 3 !!!!
I am so happy!!!!!
Go Fans, Go TSCC!!!!!!!
We love you, Summer!!
This is a gift for you to get better soon!!
Summer Glau
76%
9473171 votes
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For those who didn’t know, Summer was about to cancel her first convention in Germany (FedCon) because she felt ill (apparently a cold).
So, let’s show our love to make her feel better in case she’s reading this or someone tells her about it.
I DID IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I voted for SUMMER GLAU!
She looks great in that jacket!
http://www.tv.com/favorite-tv-stars/female/index.html?tag=topslot;image
Keep voting for Summer. Miley Cyrus fans are trying to catch up to us.
OMG! -_-. I hate Miley Cyrus!!
wow your right Alastor that jacket looks awesome on Summer!!!!
There’s an onslaught of youngsters who love Hannah Montana on that tv.com favorite female poll. They must all be clicking away furiously (obviously due to a dearth of homework).
Summer’s percent hasn’t gone up, due mainly to the Miley Cyrus competition. We need to get after it at
http://www.tv.com/favorite-tv-stars/female/index.html
Hopefully the young’uns will have end-of-semester grades and tests to start worrying about tomorrow and can’t spend all their time on this computer poll!
KEEP VOTING FOR SUMMER!!!
Guys, Schmacky’s video has been uploaded to http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-251739
Let’s write a lot of comments there to show our support!!
No kidding, It’s CNN guys!! We really need their attention!!
KEEP VOTING!!
Keep writing comments everywhere!!
Spread the word all around the world!!
Let our voices be heard!!!
The future is not set.
There’s no fate fut what WE make.
Hasta luego.
Television is slowly sinking into the quicksand of non-scripted, dumb_ss “reality” programming. The writers, actors, sets, etc, of scripted productions cost so much to produce, that they can’t compete with the tomato-slicing, crab-boat, dirtiest-job drivel that TV execs buy on the cheap. What John Connor should do is send someone back in time to destroy the video camera, not Skynet. If T/SCC dies, it will be because “Towel-Folding with Mrs.Butterworth” low-balled it with a number FOX couldn’t refuse.
English Prof. Miley would need 6.5 million votes to catch up. I don’t see that happening. Besides, her numbers have been staggnant all night while Summers have been steadily rising. But when you’re talking about 9 million of votes it takes a lot to move 1%.
Summer Glau is the best terminator ever!!!
Go TSCC!!!!
http://www.zap2it.com/news/custom/photogallery/tv/zap-photogallery-2009-bubble-shows,0,1828400.photogallery?index=19
89% and counting on this poll. Keep voting.
Regarding the TV.com poll. I think Summer Glau is pretty safe on her 1st place position. It seems like she has a pretty big fanbase, although vote just in case.
Hopefully it will create some more buzz for the show when TV.com run a story about the poll.
I am very glad this morning to see..what i am saying to heard that! now i am sure Fow will renolve the show! it’s just a matter of time right now!
With breath cut of Josh i think it’s that! plus if i add the comment of the Fox on Twitter….
BUT if ever we don’t get a 3rd season at all either Fox or SciFi or orther…..i would be very proud of me…of ourselves…because we fight until the end! it’s that support a show! show to everybody our determination! no matter what the cost his! we spend our time do promote that!
Prove us we don’t have wrong about that!
TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!TSCC!!!!
WarnerBros managers must understand that the Terminator tv series needs an higher budget and to last at the very least 4-5 seasons if not more. And it must get connected to the movies, that’s called viral marketing and the Warner marketing Dept guys should know about that better than anyone else…
They should give the series a $70-100million budget to each new season in order to have outstanding episodes with a lot of action.
when does this vote end?
http://www.tv.com/favorite-tv-stars/female/index.html
a whopping 9.5 million votes for summer already =DDD
Hi all
keep mailing as hell here…flooding Fox and Wb !!
W Summer, i love her ! Best Tx ever !
FFOOOXX and WWAARRNEERR BRROOSSS
@ John Connor:
the poll will end whenever that site gets tired to get millions of hits or Summer gets 97 y/o, whichever comes first.
http://www.tvchatting.com/fox-pilot-orders-for-2009-10-season/
List of Fox’s 2009-10 pilots that needs to suck for us to get a season 3.
Heya Gang!!
Just wanted to drop by and say congrats to all of us fans and the cast/crew of the show for winning the votes.
We all rock!!
This is a great birthday present for me
Best Wishes Everyone,
Zad
I suggest everyone giving those pilots 1 out of 5 stars. that should get them hard >=) TERMINATORS STYLE.. NO MERCY.
Well guys, our hard work has payed off! Stay optomistic! We most certainly have a realistic shot at a S3. It’s good to see that the rightful winner took its rightful place at the top. Pure dedication…
I thinkg it will perhaps one or two of the dramas, if executed right, “may pose a threat” for our show. Ironic that one of those shows may be a McG show… (with his Terminator: Salvation and all)
Just watched the season finale again.
Oh, how sad it would be if this were the end…
Pros to all those who are putting their efforts out for the show.
Would be nice to see the preparations for action by the fans similar to what Star Trek fans did when TOS was canceled, and like what Jericho fans done as well.
Though it would warm my heart into sincere happiness just to see 10 minutes of a happy reunion of Cameron & John.
God bless.
Not that I’m proposing Dollhouse be canceled, but aside from it and our show, how many slots does Fox have that they would fill or replace?
at this point
i ask you if there are concrete possibilities about TSCC renewal for a 3rd season.
I don’t know american’s tv evaluation system.
How much all this polls we’ve won are going to change our fate?
What do you think about?
FFOOOXX AND WAARRNNNEERR BRROOS (this NEVER stop ’till 3rd season will be announced !!!)
Look at it this way.. 6 months or 1 year from now if you known you could’ve assisted and made a difference in The Resistance’s fight for Season 3… - would you regret not helping?
Win or lose, the Resistance will give it our all, and we’ll still be fighting till our last Breath for TSCC.
REGRET HURTS MORE THAN FAILURE.. REMEMBER THAT..
http://www.tv.com/favorite-tv-stars/female/index.html
9.6 MILLION VOTES FOR SUMMER GLAU!
That Greys anatamoy/House hybrid show with the schizo female doctor sounds so crazy but still so sane by trying to reel in two huge crowds of viewers (House and Grey’s Anatomy) that it may succeed in getting good test score. It seems like every show tries to emulate the success of another show and most of the time fails to create something engaging and fresh. (Remember when Lost came and everyone wanted to do make big ensemble cast shows?)
Anyway it would be a shame to lose our show (or Dollhouse for that matter) to another hospital show…
Hadley, it’s what we do. It’s all we do.
Hmm, there are about 5 pilots that Fox would consider. I’m guessing the first one would be done ala Prison Break since Paul Scheuring’s doing it. And since Prison Break would open up a slot after its end….fair chance for its genre. Another medical themed show? Ugh. This would would highly depend on how engaging they could make it and whoever they cast for the female lead. Schizophrenia? I’d watch if they cast Sarah Connor/Lena Headey. =P Human Target reminds me too much of Doll House for some reason…The reincarnation thing could either go very intriguingly or very badly. I’d really loved to watch Eva Adams tho. Sounds hilarious. But it’s not something that can last more than 1 season…=/
TSCC is still one of its kind and doesn’t exactly fit in any particular genre so I’d keep it just to have that range in my programming. Hopefully Fox would see that too.
@ Matt Live:
you wrote:”List of Fox’s 2009-10 pilots that needs to suck for us to get a season 3.”
That is not true, that is even defeatist. Those pilot don’t have to ’suck’ as you say or the that would mean that T:SCC sucks too.
I consider that the last 4 episode of season 2 are our pilots for the next season. The competition has to beat that and even if they achieve such awesomeness they’re still without any kind of fan base. Building one as good as ours is next to impossible.
So NO! the pilors don’t have to SUCK for T:SCC to have a chance.
@Innocent
Brian Austin Green mentioned in his Skynext interview that the survival of T:TSCC may depend on how pilot season goes i.e how the demographic testing of Fox’s pilot goes.
You are right in that they all don’t need to be crappy shows. But it would be beneficial if many of the pilots tested poorly, and/or the financial assessment shows that it would be more costly to build a new audience with a new show instead of just renewing T:TSCC.
My guess is that we would see that schizo doctor show anyway.
@innocent:
I agree that quality wise, I doubt any of the new pilots would be able to match up with the level of awesomeness TSCC has shown it can achieve with the last few episodes. Just doubt they’ll see things based on the quality itself. A show that can reach out to a wide audience and keep them would be the main criteria. I think Matt just means that if they suck, the chances would be a lot higher. That’s all. And I don’t disagree.
They all sound pretty much hella crappy to me.
Eva Adams
Team: Kevin Falls, Jamie Tarses
Womanizer is transformed into a woman and must endure the same kind of abuse her used to doll out; based on the Argentinian telenovela “Lalola.”
Yikes. That show was REALLY BIG down here… Let’s hope the pilot doesn’t go too well in the US.
Things can also be seen under this angle:
whoever is in charge of making T:SCC profitable at FOX will be known as the exec who couldn’t make money when given the solid gold opportunity of working with the TERMINATOR franchise… of all of them!!!
Such a mega-failure would reflect poorly, to say the least, on the whole network. Can they afford that? Possibly. Can they live without such ridicule? Certainly.
That is one of the lines that I include in my letters, in more considerate terms though.
@Innocent & @Fujii Itsuki
Perhaps I express myself little blunt sometime. From a positive perspective it does create some (respectful) drama and forces me or other to dive into the discussion to clarify, correct and/or bash the comment.
WE HAVE TO FIGTH UNTIL WE SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM-uN35jIic
IF YOU WANT THAT VIDEO COME´S TRUE…… KEEP VOTING, KEEP EMAILING,, KEEP MAKING NOISE,,,,,,,,,, WE ARE THE RESISTANCE, WE HAVE TO SAVE THE FUTURE OF OUR SHOW………….
Matt, didn’t really had any qualms about your post since I know what you meant so no worries.
Btw, I think that this Friday’s rating further proved how bad a TSCC-less Friday ratings could be. It’s been 2 weeks in a row now that the ratings have sunk after TSCC’s finale. For Dollhouse, I’m guessing this is really bad news. The chances for it getting renewed would be lower than TSCC at this point…For us, I’d say this proves that TSCC is not to be blamed for the bad rating it gets on Fridays.
Back from my holidays to read this fine news! Rock on!!
Actually this is the third week in a row, because the PB double-header bombed the week right after TSCC’s season finale.
this is really good news.
At worst it is just bad news for Dollhouse.
At best it means the either or rumors of Dollhouse v. Terminator (if true) are now in our favor.
Chucks renewed those lucky sons a bitches!
What a bunch of whiney punks that cry we were cheating!
Alastor!
Chuck is renewed! I love it, where did you hear that?
BTW, . . Sarah Connor would murder Chuck’s Sarah, for the record.
IGN.com some actress said theyed announce 2morow
@ITEM: Absolutely, I agree. Summer is the best Terminator yet and I say that as a diehard Terminator fan. When the show first aired I thought there was no way that cute little girl can pull off making us believe she is a Terminator. I couldn’t have been more wrong. She is by far my favorite T of the franchise.
As for the Fox pilots. They all sound like crap to me. If T:SCC goes down I won’t give any of thier pilots a chance. I’ll boycott the network with the exception of 24 of course.
We must torture the Fox execs with letters, emails, and poll results until they give us what we want, Season 3!! Do it for Jack and Summer.
I want to say one last thing about Chuck. The Actors pulled out all the stops to save the show. They did all kinds of stunts to generate attention. Thus far only B-A-G has done anything on behalf of Terminator.
Here we are working our asses off? Come on Thomas, Summer, Lena! Give us a hand.
@Jon
I think we’ve seen Summer, Brian, Thomas and Shirley workin some PR for the show in different capacity like conventions, movie premiers, interviews and talkshows, No doubt it would be nice if they attended some more stuff before Fox give their decision regarding the show’s future, and hopefully they will. I wonder what they could do to counter that “Chuck Subway PR stunt”?
A spot with one of the actors/creator on CNN would be priceless and well worth if they could pull it off. (Perhaps that fan video could help?)
@ Matt
Well I have to say I watched the Episode of Big Bang Theory with Summer. That must have been painful for her to shoot, so it was a good sacrifice. She through herself under the train so to speak.
I am not sure what we could do to help to help motivate them. However, a family outing with the Connors + a Cyborg couldn’t hurt.
*shrugs*
Also, I love the character of Riley and you can all hate me.
@ Jon,
I loved the character of Riley itself very much too.
Her story was badly told and in that the FOX execs may have the greater part of blame to assume as they messed with Josh script in that case.
They made him introduce Riley earlier than he wanted to, I think.
You guys seen this?
http://roflrazzi.com/2009/05/03/celebrity-pictures-terminator-honestly-teeth/
Riley sucked. She was a bad character, poorly portrayed, that took too much time from the essentials of the story. Riley was just a bad idea all the way around. In S3 I hope John has really outgrown his chubby chaser phase and gets back to business. If he meets up with Riley in the future the proper response will be two to the chest and one to the head so he can continue the search for Cameron.
@Jon
Yes I know about that BBT episode. Yes, it’s painful to watch. I never really got the charm of BBT. Sure it has heart, like Chuck, but the nerd elements are portrayed kinda crude and oversimplified in its complexity (if that makes any sense) It’s not that I got a sense of humour but damn - it’s just not that funny,
Some stuff has even the reverse effect and just pisses me off because it is more embarrassing than funny - like the Summer episode. What can I say not all people watching “high concept” show identify or like all the nerd/geek comedy stuff that’s out there. That’s the tough part about trying to communicate with different demographics and what “channels” to use.
But not only what channels but also exactly what to do in this channel. Don’t know if you found that BBT episode funny @Jon. I doubt the crazy idea thinking “nerd stalking on a train” is a good theme to use with a guest actress who in real life has a disturbingly big fanbase may not be the best strategy. It kind of sends the wrong message to fans, even though it is a comedic satire on the issue, that many fans may be socially handicapped and can’t handle meeting a famous person. I think that’s why I never found that BBT episode funny. It felt like the writers thought off it as being recognizable and funny, for me it just felt creepy.
Anyways about favourite characters other people may hate, don’t forget Jesse. She was a perfect “bad guy” in a refreshing nuanced way compared to all the metal running around. Even though she may be gone, this is one of the characters I would love to see return in some capacity next season. (Heard something about Jacobsen doing Melrose Place, let’s hope she got time to return for some episodes, even if the M.P. takes off)
KEEP VOTING!!!
http://www.zap2it.com/news/custom/photogallery/tv/zap-photogallery-2009-bubble-shows,0,1828400.photogallery?index=19
Hang in there, baby!
Vote at the bottom:
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-tv-grid-sp,0,381932.special
Hey,
on LA Times there’s a new poll about show those have to be renewed!
Let’s vote, vote , vote !!
Actually, we’re winning with 41 % of preferences…let’s strike at the top !
FFOOOXXX AND WWAAARRNEEERR BRRROOOSS !!!!
GUYS, TSCC NEEDS YOUR HELP. THIS IS LOS ANGELES TIMES. THIS IS WHERE ALL THE SETS OF TSCC AND FOX HEAD QUATER ARE AT! THIS IS WHERE WE NEED TO STRIKE. LET ALL THOSE PEOPLE KNOW THE RESISTANCE WILL NEVER GIVE IN! GOGOGO AND VOTE!@!!
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-tv-grid-sp,0,381932.special
POLL IS AT BOTTEM LEFT
How do we vote? I’m not seeing a vote button anywhere!
Chuck fans are cheating! they shot up like 30% in an hour, and now they’re beating us! Shame on them, their show is getting renewed already!
We are aiming for 10 million votes! Swing by and give us a hand or ten or a couple of thousand!
http://www.tv.com/favorite-tv-stars/female/index.html?tag=topslot;image
@ Allan - yes! We are getting close because so many people are voting at once! Get in on this vote to remember. It’s exhilarating to see the numbers going up so fast.
VOTE!! VOTE!! VOTE!!!
The future is not set.
There’s no fate but what WE make.
_________________________
WE love you Summer!!! Get well soon!!
GUYS I just went to this poll “http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-tv-grid-sp,0,381932.special” and where last 0.1%
KEEP VOTING HERE!!
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-tv-grid-sp,0,381932.special
We NEED a 3rd season!!!
These are thepositions by now:
Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles 47.9%
Chuck 37.8%
Don’t let the Chuckies get so close!!
KEEP VOTING RESISTANCE FIGHTERS!!!
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-tv-grid-sp,0,381932.special
We will never stop.
can we vote more than once without deleting cookies? can anyone confirm?
I just voted. This whole Chuck vs. Terminator is lame and irrational. Terminator is my favorite show of all time! I’ve never watched Chuck, but why are Chuck fans so against us? If Chuck fans feel about their show as I do about Terminator, then I wish them the best of luck, but why do they hate on us?! Castle is pretty good, but we (Terminator) are of course winning and lets keep it that way! Terminator forever!
We’re beating the Chuckies!!
Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles 49.9%
Chuck 30.6%
KEEP VOTING RESISTANCE!!!
Together we are making the difference!!
@Jack: They started the fight. We fight back.
@JOHN CONNOR: I’d recommend deleting the cookies before you vote again.
Looks like DOLLHOUSE has moved up rapidly to 26.6% on the LA TIMES poll–it’s eating away at our percentage margin:
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-tv-grid-sp,0,381932.special
Summer broke the 10 million vote barrier. CONGRATULATIONS SUMMER. Get well soon.
THIS MEANS WAR!!
I’m using the forward and back buttons and I’m not having to delete cookies to vote again. This might work for you but it may also be because I’m using a router.
As a Chuck fan and a Terminator fan, many of the elements of both shows are similar.
The main character (John, Chuck) is not a real hero (at least not yet) and they are protected by a female character (Cameron, Sarah) with whom they are in love with. The female character is sworn to protect them, but is detached. In the case of Cameron she is a cyborg, in the case of Sarah she is a secret Agent who cannot let people get to close. Both John and Chuck are forced to have abnormal lives because of their positions (Future Leader, Intercept). They also both contain action.
That being said I have always made clear my loyalty to Terminator. It sounds like tomorrow Chuck will get renewed, if that happens perhaps they will chill out and we can crush this poll too!
It’s resistance here,
they WON’T PASS !!
But i read somewhere that Chuck has just been renewed…why is there this poll again ?!?
It seems clear that a 3rd TSCC season IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE ! Look what happened with Chuck…”dying…bubbling”…and probably renewed !
Go go go !!!
FFFOOOXX and WWAAARRNNEERR BRROOOSS
I liked Riley she was an interesting character. She had a great story. i think it was cool of them to put Riley in the scene.
It was rly sad when Riley died. And i was totally shockd at how they killed Reese off so fast, Just one second and he was dead.
@Snake: Notice that when you do that the number of “responses” doesn’t change. I think if that number doesn’t change it means that your vote didn’t count. Maybe we should delete the cookies to make sure our votes count.
KEEP VOTING RESISTANCE FIGHTERS!!!
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-tv-grid-sp,0,381932.special
I forgot all the commas in my previous comment, sorry.
__________________________
KEEP FIGHTING RESISTANCE!!
There’s no fate but what WE make.
I’m not stating any love for Chuckies, Terminate them! Their BS is just lame though! Lets kill em’ Cam at the bowling ally style!
I mobilized the Resistance Fighters from Argentina, Spain, Chile and the rest of Latin America organized in http://www.sconnorchronicles.com.ar (4,919 members and growing) to vote like crazy for TSCC on the L.A. Times poll.
Hang in there, baby!
The resistance never stops.
Keep voting on the LA times poll!
It seems we’re kicking ass in all polls etc..If chuck got renewed we shouldn’t have a problem.Chuck was a far second in most polls.
Whats the numbers in the LA Times poll?
Thanks
If you use Firefox, you will have to erase the coockies and clear your Private Data.
KEEP VOTING RESISTANCE FIGHTERS!!!
There’s no fate but what WE make.
Good job with the website Alexis.
22%dullhouse
22%chuckies
48% TERMINATOR : THE SARAH CONNORS CHRONICLES!
114000 votes so far
@W Dan:
Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles [47.9%]
Dollhouse [22.8%]
Chuck [21.2%]
Hang in there, baby!
Excellent! Thank you.
ps. whats a good english tscc fan site forum? i’ve checked out probably 5 but they barely talk. anyone?
Thanks, W Dan.
Oops, JOHN CONNOR anticipated my move. Well, let’s take it as a confirmation for you to be sure we are winning.
KEEP FIGHTING RESISTANCE!!!
Spread the word!!
Spread your love for TSCC around all the world!!!
Check out this Flickr group started by io9 for TSCC
http://www.flickr.com/groups/1105265@N23/
Post the link on other TSCC sites and forums.
Riley had great cleavage, especially in that wedding dress.
Thanks for the info Alexis. I’ll toss my cookies in the future.
1st Lt. Technics reporting from the battlefield http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-tv-grid-sp,0,381932.special Sir!
Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles 45.2%
Dollhouse 23.8%
Chuckies 20.7%
We had 2,7% casualties , we need artillery fire on the target LA Times Sir!
Over.
Lets just face it…any poll we come across…we terminate it!!!
Its true!!! Now that is fandom…and the resistance for you.
Must save TSCC…get season 3 of Cameron and Jameron goodness!!!
And can I just say I love the http://www.flickr.com/groups/1105265@N23/ site.
great job guys. KEEP ROCKING!
Can you see LA Times % using firebug?
@Kea
Nice with all the polls, fingers crossed we can get some high numners on the LA Times poll.
Don’t forget i09s Sarah made me do it campaign on Flickr. Take a picture of yourself with a sponsor product and the text: “Sarah made me do it” Upload your image to your Flickr account and link it to this group:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/1105265@N23/
(For inspiration check what people have already put up in the group)
I would really hope we could get over a 100 images or more on this site before May 18. Will YOU help?
ill be posting something up in a couple of days on flikr.
BURN THOSE CHEATERS!
http://www.rotteneggs.com/r3/show/se/700-forum-display_topic-0-1-7203981.html
PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO CHEAT (well, they are cheating), TO BOOST MILEY CYRUS’ VOTES AT THE TV.COM POLL!
don’t worry. that was a little less than a month ago. april 8, 2009. those suckers gave up when we hit 10 mill HA!!! but if anyone understand how to use that script. maybe we can use it against them?
SYMBOLIC TO THE RESISTANCE REPROGRAMING CAMERON!?!?!??!!?!?
if not no worries just vote by hand. BUT REMEMBER TO KEEP ON VOTING FOR THE LA TIME. THATS MOST IMPORTANT!!!
What about Chuck?
WE ARE LOSING THE LA TIMES POLL, YOU GUYS ARE VOTING FOR DOLLHOUSE (Dollhouse)
45.3%)
WE ARE THE THIRD ONE FROM THE BOTTOM UP. PLEASE VOTE RIGHT.
What does any of this have to do with Chuck?
Its a fair question!
Chris this is the TSCC number:
45.3%
Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles
The one above it is its number, not the one below it.
Yeah, Chris. Stay calm. Everything will be ok.
Here is something you might like to see. Gorgeous summer at a convention with thomas dekker with Black Eye shadow. I was shocked at first but it does look good on him. http://www.summer-glau.net/wp/ its right at the bottom of the first page
Link to the photo album as well http://www.summer-glau.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=302&pos=6
Enjoy
Dekker was either crying or auditioning to take Ledger’s place as The Joker in the next Batman film. Either way it’s sad that he’s wearing more make-up than Summer and she still looks better
Have any of you considered that Yvonne Strahovski is much hotter then Summer Glao?
Or how Chuck feels about taking polls away from Chuck?
Have you considered that Chuck fans are haters and sore losers who always start cheating first? If I wanna see hot girls who are bad actresses I can just buy a copy of Playboy.
Sore losers?
Chuck and Terminator had a face off not to long ago, called Monday nights.
If I remember Terminator buckled faster then a T-101 in a press.
How the hell is Yvonne Strahovsky hotter than Summer Glau?! I can’t even put my outrage into words =)
And there is no such thing as “taking polls away from Chuck”. If you guys would vote more, or have a stronger fanbase then you wouldn’t lose at all these polls, lol
@Dustin
To each his own. But on this blog it is a Terminator world and Summer Glau is queen. So asking if we considered the hotness of another actress is a moot point because Summer has aura about her that transcends external appearance. Plus I’m brunette guy anyway.
First, sorry I spelled Summer’s last name wrong, I meant no disrespect. She is a pretty girl, just not up to Chuck’s standards.
Furthermore, Terminator mid way through the series tanked on writing. If you somehow get a third season, they better at least bring their ‘C’ game this time.
Chuck wont be announced until the 18th either, so we will be everywhere you are at every poll, round after round. Awesome.
And you will get your ass handed to you every time. Every single time. Bring it on.
You’ll be eating our Dust-in.
Strahovsky IS hot though. I’m a blonde-lover, myself. Maybe she can land a guest appearance on TSCC once Chuck is formally cancelled.
@dustin
In the interest of being fair and balanced, I understand your right to be here. But I must ask, why are you here? I don’t dislike Chuck. Fortunately for you and all the Chuck fans out there it airs on a network not notorious for premature cancelations. So were as Chuck may need the fan bases support, Terminator requires a movement. I am an advocate for scripted television so I believe that good shows should not be canceled regardless of the network. So for you to come here and start a Chuck v. Terminator discussion is pointless. This is the TSCC board you could not have just stumbled here. So I ask once again why are you “really” here?
DONT STOP BELIVEING!!!!!!!!!
hes being a #@#$% dustin. chuck is ok. i dont want any show canceled, ever,. get out of here dustin.
Brian,
would you please not invite the bimbos in. LOL
In all appearance, it is so boring to be a Chuck fan that one needs our company to feel alive.
Just kidding Chuckie
@Havoc
First of all, don’t call us Chuckies. We prefer Team Bartowsky.
Second, Team Bartowsky were hoping for an announcement about Chuck’s fate today. NBC decided to wait until 18th. The article mentioned TSCC. I ended up in this blog.
Three, I found you insulting Chuck and Chuck fans. I ‘flashed’ and decided to defend Chuck’s honor. I could quote you back statements in this blog, but you have read them.
At any rate the reason I was initially here is thinking that Team Bartowsky and whatever you call yourselves, come up with ways to help both shows stay off the bubble. Perhaps, we could work together, but obviously I was wrong. However, if you stop spewing Chuck hating vile, we may be able to coordinate some really effective stragities between today and ‘Judgement day (18th).’
@dustin
Well I see you did not read my post because I said I did not dislike Chuck. First I never referred to you guys as “Chuckies”. Second we are “The Resistance”. Third if you read what I wrote you would have noticed the olive branch. Once again I have no problem with Chuck, however I do take issue with being called cheaters by your comrades. I do have issue with you bringing your hate to our blog. If we were on an equal footing network wise we would crush you. We destroy you in DVR numbers and illegal downloads. I realize the latter is not an official statistic but it should be because it illustrates the demand for our show. Also if you want to pit fan bases against one another in a winner takes all battle you won’t last until the end of this post. As two of the endangered shows we should be on the same side in the cause. However if I’m being asked to choose, which every online poll requires us to do, I choose TSCC hands down. You guys never had a chance.
Dustin,
People here are really starting to dislike Chuck fans because after every poll that we win Chuck fans start leaving messages that attack us, that attack TSCC, and that accuse us of cheating. I never watched Chuck so when I hear that I get angry and refuse to begin watching it in the first place. You came on here saying we stole polls from Chuck and that Chuck has hotter girls, so no you didn’t come and say let’s work together you came to say screw you guys we’re better. You should check TSCC’s Monday stats because Chuck does not surpass our Monday ratings. Since the shows are on two different networks there should be no mutual hatred, but Chuck fans are always the ones throwing the first punch.
I sincerely hope that they never bring another big-boobed blondie onto our show again. What are we, reality T.V.? Absolutely not.
I find Yvonne NOWHERE near as attractive as Summer Glau. If we are judging merely by terms of physical attraction, I’d sooner have a fat Summer Glau with that same beautiful face she has over a set of big boobs on Ms./Mrs. Yvonne. Oh and guess what, Summer Glau is not some big-boobied chick either. Especially if you take a look at the season finale. She has a very nice body yes, but its nice without the big boobs. FURTHERMORE, on my standards anyway, ultimate physical attraction to me for a woman comes from her face. In Yvonne vs Summer, Summer flat out pwns, destroys, annihilates, eradicates, Chuck Norris-es, and of course TERMINATES Yvonne out of existence.
NO offense to Yvonne however in terms of her looks because beauty is only in the eye of the beholder, and true beauty is only that with lies within the person and not the body. After all a pretty flower or a colorful berry can be poisonous. So, as far as the true beauty of the two women go, I do not know the answer to that. I know Summer is shy, cute, and adorable, but that doesn’t necessarily make her the winner.
Regardless, and I’m guilty as well in Summer Fan-boy-ism, but appreciation of an actress or her character just the same as actors and characters should not be based solely on their physical appearances. We shall leave so low pathetic standards to that of reality T.V. which pretty much has no standards.
As for people insulting Chuck and other shows, I have seen this. However Dustin, coming over to Terminator & Summer land, and speaking what you have spoke, regardless of bearing ill intent or not, is like take a bat to a hornet’s nest. You will get stung…without mercy. The same would happen to us if we went over the Chuck land, or to any Yvonne’s fan-base sites, and spoke similar of her. So I’m not going to say you coming here that you struck first, but it was not the wisest. There is tension between the fan-bases of our shows yes, but we should be respectful and mindful of other’s feelings.
I shall stand by Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, my favorite show of all time, with my favorite actress of all time, Summer Glau, and with a story though perhaps not the best ever but nonetheless one that has pulled me and intrigued me and devoured me with interest the most, that of TSCC.
As Cameron said: “I think you have said enough Mr. Ellison. You should leave now.”
Nuthin’ wrong with a little healthy competition. Is there?
Okay, okay, lets lay down our arms. Here is the proposal:
I propose we (fans of each show) show support by purchasing the season 1 DVDs of the other show. If we all do this (ideally) it would be a massive display of strength. Also we may find that we like the other show and tune in if they get a third season. So I will go first and purchase the TSCC tonight, and as evidence I have done this I will tell you what I think of the pilot sometime tomorrow.
Meanwhile, some of you will buy Chuck on DVD (or Blu-Ray) and let me know. I will take this back to several Chuck blogs and see if I can’t get them to do the same. This is a workable plan that will increase the chances of both our shows getting off the bubble.
Tomorrow I will give you a short summery of my thoughts on your Pilot. Hopefully we can help each other out. As far as polls go, I understand they force a choice. Obviously we have to vote our heats. Let me know what you think of the proposition. Either way I will buy your DVDs tonight.
Chris, We are still winning the poll 45% to 23%.
Keep voting guys.
SUMMER GLAU is so hot. Shes pretty. i no tv stars tend to be assholes but some (and i belive summer is one of these tv stars) are genuanly nice,good, and caring people
ive already have chuck on dvd. i like it but not nearly as much as TSCC. as i said i hate it win any tv show gets canceled. they all have potintal, just like firefly.
i luv summer glau!!!!
@Dustin
“First of all, don’t call us Chuckies. We prefer Team Bartowsky.” Not as catchy as Browncoats, eh? Not that The Resistance is catchier, but come on Chuckies are way cuter and more media friendly than “Team Bartowsky”.
If TSCC fans wouldn’t use The Resistance, what name could be more media friendly, and catchier to say?
Another poll:
http://remote.lohudblogs.com/2009/05/04/chuck-versus-the-one-sided-readers-poll-what-viewers-think-of-chuck-in-their-own-words/
Voted!
Not so cocky we almost have taken that tv blog poll. T:TSCC fans please prove to this blogger that we do not cheat.
http://remote.lohudblogs.com/2009/05/04/chuck-versus-the-one-sided-readers-poll-what-viewers-think-of-chuck-in-their-own-words/
The poll is to the right. Vote by choosing the “Sarah Connor” button (Nice way to confuse voter by not using the entire title.)
Last LA Times poll update:
Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles 44.6%
Chuck 23.4%
Dollhouse 22.6%
from 136156 total votes
@MattLive
It’s a trap! Don’t trust the enemy! INFILTRATION DETECTED!
@Dustin Jokes apart, I don’t think so, i don’t enjoy Chuck, if I would buy some DVD, it will be Dollhouse not Chuck IMO.
@Dustin
You were a bit of a jerk when you came in here.
However, I will bite, I will buy Chuck on DVD. But I am already a fan. I will urge others in this room to do so also. I expect you will tell your “Team Bartowsky” to purchase TSCC.
Its not a bad plan if we work together.
Meanwhile VOTE TERMINATOR!!!!!
Nice thought……Team Bartowsky and the Resistance “fighting” together for the saviour of the others’ show……really cool.
A pitty, we didn’t come up earlier with that….maybe both shows wouldn’t have to worry to get a next season right now…….
IF both shows(!) get renewed, it would be cool if we could support each other in the future!
Furthermore, i think it’s cool and just admirable, how dedicated the Chuck fans support their show (just like we do, so i can’t understand how someone could be a hater towards the Chuckies;-)
So, think about it and (maybe) spread the word if you think it’s a good idea that both fan bases would support each other.
Voted for the TV Poll –Thank you all for keeping Terminator fans updated and informed! I just wanted to tell you all that I cross post information I find here at other Terminator sites where other fans may not frequent this blog or the T-Wiki
When does the TV Poll end? I couldn’t find an end date. I must be blind, I think
@Enzo
If you think thats a good idea go ahead then. But not for me, thanks
And when you said, haters?! Chuckies started this fight(starting with the Nr.1 Chuckie fan Kristin Dos Santos, do you remember?) and then trolling on our poll victory on eonline. You are just another infiltrated, go home dude.
i think there will be a riot if after all this hard work we dont get renewed. That will be fun to watch.
Lets hope we see more of each show. not watched chuck yet.
Hey, I’m only seeing the early drags of it, but lets not turn on each other and treat each other like Sarah has treated Cameron.
The Resistance must stay united.
The competition would do something like this to divide us and weaken us. But for those who want to support both shows, even actively, do not put them down. It is better that they at least give us some support instead of us alienating them and they in turn giving the competition their full support.
Kristin Dos Santos can STILL kiss my endo.
we will team and conquor FOX and NBC. together we are unstopable. at the polls we are enemys, but we also have common enemys (life, privleged, etc,etc) if we unite we will stop judgement day aka May 18th.
If Chuckies are wanting our support now is cause they can’t fight alone. Simple as that.
Just remember to keep writing, Emailing, calling as much as possible we need to bombard them in these next two weeks…
get all of your info here
http://www.savethescc.com/
Don’t get fooled Resistance Fighters!!!
Even though I never watched Chuck, I can easily look for a blog with a review of the first episode and tell them that’s what I think about the show because “I’ve bought the DVD” - That’s pure bulls**t!! I don’t believe it. I don’t trust him at all. If this guy would have come with the sincere and peaceful purpose of proposing an alliance, he wouldn’t have said what he said in his first comment, don’t you think?
Don’t let yourself be fooled!!!
We don’t negotiate with our rivals (not enemies, rivals).
Stay together, Resistance!!!
Focus on our mission!!! Don’t get distracted!!
TSCC risees or fall in OUR shoulders!!!
KEEP VOTING!!!
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-tv-grid-sp,0,381932.special
The future is not set.
There’s no fate but what WE make.
Ok, that blog is lame, http://remote.lohudblogs.com/2009/05/04/chuck-versus-the-one-sided-readers-poll-what-viewers-think-of-chuck-in-their-own-words/ they keep deleting my comments, because I called a Chuckie troll blog(reminds me someone called Kristin…)and a poll made by and for Chuckies.
It seems truth hurts…
Anyway I dont care a bolt about that lame site.
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Don’t forget this other poll!!
http://www.zap2it.com/news/custom/photogallery/tv/zap-photogallery-2009-bubble-shows,0,1828400.photogallery?index=19
Keep it 91% (44135 votes)
Kill it 9% (4287 votes)
Total Votes: 48422
Hang in there, baby!
@Technics: Exactly! Who cares about that poll? I can’t see an important executive from Fox or anyone for that matter paying attention to a poll in such a crappy blog - LOL
Let’s focus on our mission. This poll is meant for us to get distracted and don’t pay attention to the important ones, the ones that counts. Media, the 4th power, guys. We must focus on L.A. Times, E! Entertainment, CNN, not those little ignorant bloggers who don’t know or pretend not to know the name of our show.
KEEP FIGHTING, RESISTANCE!!!
Keeping my word:
I purchased TSCC on Blu-Ray. I watched the Pilot episode. A brief summery: dream sequence, family moves, John meets Cameron, Terminator shoots classroom, Cameron saves John, Sarah gets captured, Cameron and John rescue, Go to Dysons, Rob a bank, Travel through time.
I sincerely enjoyed it. The pilot was exciting and personal. I plan to continue to watch the series. I was also surprised at how similar Cameron Phillips character is to Sarah Walker. The action was exciting and a bit like the movies.
I have been blogging and at this point have 16 Team Bartowsky people who have agreed to buy DVD or Blu-Ray of TSCC. I understand the distrust, but I look forward to the next few episodes.
Please consider working together as an option. Also, in response to Alexis, there is a special feature in the Blu-Ray with Summer doing ballet.
So, why weren’t you that “friendly” from the beginning? That’s what I don’t get…
Sorry, but I don’t trust you.
I only trust The Resistance.
Glad to see we generally own any poll we decide to, it’s been kinda fun dashing to the polls voting and leaving comments. The uncertainty sucks, I was off the map during the firefly years, but to those that went through that I feel ya!! I found out about firefly during TSCC’s winter break and am glad I missed out on that trauma when it was current.
Anyway, back to voting, writing, burning up cigarettes,……and warm beer……..bummer.
I guess if you stick in too many links you get stuck in moderation
There’s another interview with Brian Austin Green at
geekoutpodcast.com
I’m still downloading it.
LETS GET THAT LA POLL SKY ROCKETING GUYS!!!!! WE CAN DOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LALALALALALALLA
savethatshow.com/Save_That_Show__Terminator
_The_Sarah_Connor_Chronicles.shtml
or
http://tinyurl.com/c3twcn
If we go down???? NO way… don’t even say that. We need a season 3 because the other stuff out there is just crap. T:SCC, please come back!
Well said Alexis and mg9018, NEVER SURRENDER KEEP FIGHTING SOLDIERS!
Summer has topped 11 million votes in the http://www.tv.com/favorite-tv-stars/female/index.html poll. Chuckie’s chick isn’t anywhere near Summer’s league.
Stop in and vote for her again If Fox sees that they have the hottest female actress on the market it can only help the show. Summer is walking away with this one.
Go TSCC Go Fans!!!
Keep Voting!!!
TSCC the best show ever!!!
LA times poll results update:
Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles 44.7%
Chuck 23.1%
Dollhouse 22.3%
From 138109 total votes
Keep voting Resistance.
Wow what a good article:
http://www.wired.com/underwire/2009/05/sarah-connor-chronicles/
LOL sci-fi Sopranos!!! And I think wired.com is a Cameron fan!!!
They call her “the most inscrutable, yet intriguing, sci-fi character since Spock.” Wait we said that this very producers blog!! NICE!!!!
Must get season 3 for Cameron and Jameron!!!
Great article Kea but the comments are very negative. Get in there and bombard them with positive comments and dronw out the nay sayers.
RIGHT ON IT SIR!
@Kea
Look at those pathetic comments from Sumer fans. made me laugh.
TSCC story is too much complicated for their little brains
Nice comment from that Wired blog, just hope that the decision makers realize what support the show also seems to have from the media. A story on CNN would be the best that could ever happen right now to show that T:TSCC even permeates more mainstream media.
So don’t just vote and mail Fox, upload an image to that Flickr page and video for that fan video also. The more strange campaigns could attract the attention of the really big media outlets.
http://www.flickr.com/groups/1105265@N23/
So show what Sarah made you buy. Upload something creative, now!
YOU GUYS ARE AMAZING!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkyop1dpcQU&feature=related
THE RESISTANCE LIVES.
Please go comment on Wired and make a case about why the show is worth your time watching. Make a substantiated case for it: this will bury the one liners like:”That show is crap” under the stupidity that they excrete and it will help building an audience for T:SCC.
Thank you for being the most fervent army of fans any show ever had. I’m honored to count myself as one of your group.
Voted and voted~ Will keep voting. =D
I liked that wired article.
It boggles my mind though how some people could have such opposite views of the show than I do…Are they watching the right show? I guess if they started watching with the mindset of wanting to hate the show, they’ll just be nitpicking right and left without actually appreciating the finer things that this show has to offer. It’s fine if they don’t like it since it’s a matter of preference in the end, but the way some people attack it at every opportunity they have…*sighs* They are the ones that have no real life. At least we’re fighting for something we love. So, keep up the good fight my fellow Resistance~
Would be amazing if all Dodge Ram owners posed on i09s Sarah made me do it Flickr page. Dodge was a great sponsor, who paid for an entire episode and made an ok non-obtrusive product placement with their Dodge Ram cars. (Oh, and if you don’t own a Ram, take a picture beside one on the street!)
http://www.flickr.com/groups/1105265@N23/
BTW I heard Ford cars work as well.
Again trying to gain assistance:
Clearly you all have the poll voting thing down. However, I thought I might share with you some things we are doing to save Chuck that you may be able to add to what you are doing to save TSCC. I admit this is not altruism I am hoping for some support for your fan base.
One thing we have done is do ‘buy-out’ days. Subway was one of our major sponsors, so our lead actor Zach Levi (aka ‘Chuck’) would announce ‘buy-outs’ and all Team Bartowsky would purchase footlong subs. Who are you major sponsors? Could you organize something similar? Perhaps you could convince whoever your lead actor is to do the same? From what I can tell Summer gets the most attention.
We also have been writing NBC and WB (yes we are owned by WB as well . . .) and also sending boxes of ‘nerds’ candy with the letters. Is there something like that you could mail along with your letters?
Just sharing some mutual ideas. You may have already thought of them, but Team Bartowsky is fairly organized, we may be getting beat in the polls but we have had some pretty effective methods. Thanks for your support. I continue to try and convince people to buy your DVD, I am hoping you all will reciprocate.
Just looked on TV Guide scorecard and TSCC just moved up to “outlook fair” for renewal. I’m really looking at this as VERY positive, since everyone thought this show was dead. Even TV Guide once said “outlook poor” for renewal.
Keep up the fight!
@Mel
Where did you see that can you send us the location?
Betrayl!
E!Online signed up as an official supporter of CHUCK! THOSE BASTARDS!
I guess I should have known after the stunt they pulled. Here a list of official supporters:
Wired.com
TV.com
Chicago Tribune
GiveMeMyRemote.com
Zachary-Levi.net
E!Online
EW.com
FireJeffZucker.com
Zachary-Levi.com
PixelatedGeek.com
NPR
With all that support, I think we can be really proud at how we have bucked their system. We have hit them and their save Chuck tactics from all directions!
Good job!
@Jon
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Fall-TV-Schedule-1005618.aspx
Here’s the link.
Here’s the TVGuide link:
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Fall-TV-Schedule-1005618.aspx
Cool news~
I am hoping for some support for your fan base.
I am OK with whatever we can actually do to help Chuck.
One thing we have done is do ‘buy-out’ days. Who are you major sponsors? Could you organize something similar? Perhaps you could convince whoever your lead actor is to do the same? From what I can tell Summer gets the most attention.
Don’t hold your breath on that one. Every star of the show is working double while not shooting T:SCC. Summer is roaming around the planet promoting at conventions. Lena and Thomas are in 3-4 movies each, acting, producing and/or directing them. BAG is the one we hear about the most, being interviewed left and right.
Besides, it is unlikely that they’ll copy another’s idea: that plagiary would simply work against T:SCC.
Is there something like that you could mail along with your letters?
Nuts and bolts? Tools to tighten those they may have loose?
Here’s one thing that is easy to do and effective: even when polls, by there very nature, are putting us in opposition, let’s be civil and respectful of the other camp in the comments that we make on those sites. Bitterness, accusations and general insults are what started the ball rolling down the hill.
@Jon
We thought we were winning the E!Online poll. Looking back we didn’t have an Alastor, we may have done more. So we were upset when the switched. However, I can see that they really screwed you guys. However, Team Bartowsky had nothing to do with it. But for the record, it wasn’t fair. You shouldn’t have had to rally right after Chuck’s finale.
@Innocent
If buying Chuck on DVD is too much. Just try watching the pilot on Hulu and if you like it consider purchasing the DVD. That would help Chuck.
I agree Innocent, I should not have come into your room ‘guns blazing.’ So you have my apologies. It is the polls that have turned us against each other, outside of those however, working together makes more sense.
I’m ok with them supporting Chuck BUT i think they should support TSCC as well. They shouldn’t be negative about TSCC and positive about Chuck since it isn’t a competition between the 2.
If you are reading this message, YOU are THE RESISTANCE!
In an unprecedented effort to save TSCC, I ask that every Resistance Fighter send an email to askfox@fox.com on Friday May 8th 8PM/7PMc (old TSCC schedule on FOX). No need to wrote an elaborate email: Just ask FOX to renew TSCC for a 3rd season.
What’s important is to send as much emails as possible at that precise date and time. PLEASE only 1 email per person (we don’t want to spam them, we want to be heard).
Thanks to pass that message to every TSCC friends.
Etienne,
Canadian Resistance
Good idea Etienne, post a thread on the wiki!
Great idea Étienne!
How do you intend to organize that?
In pure Resistance form maybe we should email for the whole hour ?
Hmm, let’s see. Friday, 7pm in US means at GMT -6 right? Since I’m at GMT +8, I’d have to email Fox on Sat, 9am to be the exact same time as you guys. Cool~ I’ll be emailing from the future to the past. Sorta. Lol~
International fans, you can do your own conversion to sync the ‘future’ with the ‘past’. If you’re not sure how, you can try using this tool:
http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc
@innocent: It is important that we don’t spam Fox mail servers because it will not help our cause (I don’t want Mr Murch sliding on me).
We should be creative in our emails (don’t send a copy-pasted template you found somewhere on the ‘net).
Thanks to spread the word. Ask other fans: If they will join us on Friday night?
Fujii Itsuki:
Great!
Future resistance fighters may have better information that we do. 
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/TV/05/05/comment.connor.terminator/
You wanted a CNN article on TSCC? here it is!
I’m proud to be a part of the SCC fan resistance to save our beloved show!
Thanks everyone for the links/poll info.
@Zkyire - thanks for the link to the CNN article - I just read it and posted comments via Facebook (fans can also do so via Twitter) so far they are growing and have been very positive. Keep the comments coming there as well!
OMG! CNN! o.o *tweets*
@Zkyire Thanks!
The best review about TSCC I’ve ever read. Hope we get more like that in the coming days!
It is not just an article on CNN: it is a GREAT comment asking to save a show which has just to much in store to throw away.
I may just smile all day.
@etlenne
thats a really good idea, show them that we are all organized and ready to stand up together, that we can all collectively set up a plan like that. we would have to agree on a subject title that we we all sent them with and we should all sign them “from the resistance” am all in for that:)
Here’s the link to post comments about the CNN TSCC article on Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=9283&post=44766&uid=58026835199#topic_top
Everybody comment the CNN article on Facebook!
Btw, the writer of that great CNN article, Josh Levn invites us to leave a comment about our thoughts on the article and the show on his facebook. So if you have an account, please post! Here:
CNN Josh Levn Facebook
@Zkyire Nice work with the story you found:
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/TV/05/05/comment.connor.terminator/
Nice little article from Mr. Levn.
Now I’m hoping for a follow-up interview with Mr Friedman or any of the actors on CNN entertainment segment on TV (looking at journalist/media magnet Brian Austin Green
.) Perhaps we can ask Mr Levn about this on his Facebook site?
Holla, if someone finds any video segment in the coming weeks. (Finger crossed)
We know we have many of the TV critics (excluding certain media channels like Watch with Kristin) on our side. Fingers crossed many of them continues their positive remarks and that there may be a ripple effects even amongst doubters. For instance TV guide who changed that chance for renewal status - which makes it perfect for some well placed PR by letting them interviewing someone on T:TSCC.
Just read the CNN article and emailed the link to askfox. Today is a good day!
Wow…I keep double posting. That just proves how fast we mobilize tho~ Heheh.
A comment by Josh Levn on the discussion post:
“Wow folks! Keep these messages coming! If you’d like, sign up (”fan”) this page for future updates from Josh and to have your words read on air about all sorts of issues!”
On air?? O_o
I just posted my kinda long comment there. Everyone else should too!
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I KNEW we would get a story ‘printed’ if we kept on fighting!
VIVA la resistance!
@Fujii Itsuki
Damn, plenty of comments already. Oh, we should sooo flood the page with good quality commebts so that they feel obligated to call Josh or someone in the cast. Seems like he may be intrested to do a story on from what can be read between the lines on his Facebook reply.
IMPORTANT TO T:TSCC fans
————————————————
Josh Levn works for CNN and likes the show and have written a good article about it, he may talk about our comments on air:
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=9283&post=44766&uid=58026835199#topic_top
Please guys, make some good comments regarding Mr Levn’s article and that T:TSCC should be saved. If we spin on the quality of the show and the importance of letting the show build and that it in fact IS a big part of contemporary movie and TV culture. Also, send explain the urgency for the media like CNN to cover the issue before May 18 when makes their decision regarding the shows future.
If we are lucky maybe our comments will build to a segment on TV regarding our enthusiasm to keep the show alive.
Hang in there…
No FATE, boys and girls! Can you FEEL it?
WHOA - RCN says: bestir Riley
@ Wolfie
VIVA LA Resistance is right you couldnt have worded it any better
Sorry found some mistakes in my previous comment:
Tips what to comment on Josh Levn (CNN reporter) Facebook site:
If we spin on the quality of the show and the importance of letting the show build and that it in fact IS a big part of contemporary movie and TV culture. Also,explain the urgency for the media like CNN to cover the issue before May 18 when FOX makes their decision regarding the shows future.
Comment here:
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=9283&post=44766&uid=58026835199#topic_top
Hadley and Josh should tweet about the CNN article!
@ Technics:
Me infiltrated?! No dude, forget about it! Since i didn’t know how this Kristin dos Santos thing started and went on because i really don’t give a damn about comments in general (since i went to e!online JUST to vote, nothing more!).
So, would YOU mind going home by yourself dude?!
After all, i think an ALLIANCE with “somebody” (Chuck and their fans for example) who is in a pretty much similar situation like US (!!!) could be a solution for the future not to worry about ratings anymore……off course IF it would work and IF we get picked up for a third season.
If you have better ideas how to solve that damn problem to get more viewers (apart from timeslot change blablabla) then feel free to let everyone of us know!
Until then……….
Wow, it’s interesting reading those comments in the facebook and seeing everyday people actually loving it (sorry if I assumed most would be fanboys/girls…). TSCC fans are really a diverse bunch of people! Some of them didn’t even know that the show is on the chopping block tho. You think we can post links to the online voting and stuff there? In any case, I agree with Matt, make those comments longer than just “Save TSCC”. It’ll be insightful to know what people like about the show.
@Enzo
I agree. We need a solution for ratings. Perhaps if both shows get picked up we could work on creating a relationship and coalition with Chuckies. The shows have some similarities. It could be a very effective solution.
Of course we have to get picked up for a third season.
Has anybody ‘tweeted’ Hadley or Ashley about the CNN report? The Facebook commentary?
We’ve totally got momentum going. Can you feel it? I can feel it. The fans absolutely will not stop — ever — until this show is renewed!
Wolfie: Ashley just twitted about the CNN report. But people have already been tweeting about it: http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23tscc
Yeap~ Totally feel the momentum over here! =D
@Technics
I think what some of us on both sides may be missing is we NEED numbers. We need to support each others shows. We NEED viewers.
Chuck averages 5.3 million, TSC averaged 2.4 million
If we could push those numbers up even 1 million, it would make all the difference in the world. Think long term Chuck and Terminator need each others support.
Digg the CNN article:
http://digg.com/television/CNN_Commentary_Save_this_Terminator
Dustin what are you talking about? TSCC averaged about 5.5 on mondays, 3.5 on friday nights.
Dustin, you need to get your facts straight. Desparaging T:SCC success isn’t going to endear you to us.
I doubt that T:SCC got as low as 2.4 millions once on Fridays and on Mondays it did just as good as Chuck.
Moreover, even if people weren’t able to watch it direct because they went out on Fridays, as I always do, they still proved their interest with DVR boosts up to 70%.
Anyone has the DVR numbers for B2R? I missed those.
DVR numbers for B2R were 80%.
@Innocent
I got my numbers from the series finales of both shows. I meant ABSOLUTELY NO disrespect. None whatsoever. Change the numbers anyway you want. The point is both shows need them. I can tell that I have to watch my words more carefully with this crowd, but please understand my intention was only to point out that if we could sway those numbers together, that would be a good thing.
Unfortunately DVR numbers are not being used (as far as I know) because advertising can be skipped, but from what I have read TSCC numbers on DVR more then DOUBLE their live viewers. So there is an audience, I was not trying to fight that point.
I just e-mailed CNN and the writer of the wired.com article thanking them for their positive support for the show getting renewed.
@ Dustin:
Dustin, you really have to change your attitude. Maybe I am not helping and I make you nervous but check this:
I would never “change” the numbers. They are what they are: 3.6 millions on the T:SCC finale according to the Neilsens.
DVR numbers are being used and the advertisers pay if the show is seen within a 3 days time after its first airing.
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/04/11/friday-ratings-terminator-tscc-goes-out-with-a-whimper/16547
That’s 50% more than you stated.
Add to that 80% DVR, X % online, X% international (I doubt that Chuck sells outside the US and part of Canada) and that is starting to make a bit money. Just not enough yet.
BTW 80% is the most a DVR boost the show got, so DVR numbers never doubled the live viewing numbers, contrary to what you say.
We will get better numbers. I you read the comments following the CNN article, as I did, then you’d see that the word about T:SCC is seriously spreading outside the circle of hard core fans and into the general public.
T4 Salvation: there already are testimonies on the Wiki of people who never cared about T:SCC but were excited about the movie and who gave the series a run and loved it, leaving them wanting for more.
Dustin: all that I am saying is that, if you want an alliance, your chances will become much better if you learn your T:SCC.
Regards,
Jean
@Dustin,
Folks here are a little touchy about their ‘baby’. WE can bash it, but non-family cannot say anything but how beautiful the child is.
Facts aside, we are passionate about our show, just as you are about yours. I watched the Chuck finale with my family last night and we thoroughly enjoyed it. Great cliffhanger. I doubt NBC will cancel it though, and therein lies the rub. FOX has a tendency to give good shows the axe, far before they’ve reached their potential.
I already like Chuck, and was a HUGE fan of both it and Journeyman during their initial runs. Best of luck to you and your fellow Chuckies(no disrespect meant by that term BTW). Tell us the days we should be buying Subway footlongs. We’ll pitch in to help you guys out. Help us by watching our show and reccomending it to everybody you know who you believe would like it as well.
AFTER THE SEASON FINALE ALL WE CAN DO FOR NOW IS….
SAY…. “GOOD BYE CAMERON”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CczIyw3t5lQ
if we dont want that, we have to fight for our show….
@Dustin
Your propsal is interesting. i have watched Chuck before it’s okay, But i think Terminator is alot better ( no offense meant )
I think there is something to gain from watching each others shows.
But the Chuckies have made me kinda mad by saying we cheat, When we just purely love Terminator so we’ve voted for it as much as we could.
Lauren,
@innocent
:::I doubt that Chuck sells outside the US and part of Canada:::
That in fact is correct - Im from eastern europe, havent heard of any TV station around here airing Chuck. TSCC on the other hand - we’ve already had finale here too.
@ Dustin
Probably the only reason you came up with the proposal is that we have crushed Chuck in every poll. It’s your guyses way of begging for mursee, i am wrong?
mursee = Mercy srry spelled it wrong
What country u from Alamo?
::I doubt that Chuck sells outside the US and part of Canada:::
That in fact is correct - Im from eastern europe, havent heard of any TV station around here airing Chuck. TSCC on the other hand - we’ve already had finale here too.
Here, either. I think I saw a promo for Chuck, maybe last year? But then I didn’t hear anything about it again.
I’m from South-America, though.
Something about the way you spelled “Mursee” the firs time gives me the heebee jeebies
@ Sam:
Lauren was maybe burning endoskeleton: you know, the fumes…
@Brian from Canada
Im polish ._o
The point of my previous post is that TSCC is really an international show and I dont think it would’ve been a lie if I said that at last half of the overall audience is non american. From what Ive read the biggest fanbase is Asian :O
Of course that doesnt matter to FOX since they get fk all from us - warner bros is the owner of the show and its WB that earns money from selling the air rights to other channels. (at least from what I understand)
Anyways, then there is Chuck which most of us havent even heard of. Actualy Ive found out about that show when browsing through this blog
And Im not saying that Chuck is bad (or good) since Ive never even seen it, I dont even know what its about.
In few words: TSCC is just better known around the globe.
LA Times poll has us at 46.6% 2 pt increase today.
Did I hear correct? Fringe got renewed..with 1.9% of vote lol.
Offtopic:
Ive recently rewatched all xman movies and I dunno if its been mentioned before but meh wolverine must have been an inspiration for skynet.
‘ooo lets just take off those ghey claws and here take this plasma rifle, oi much better’
LOOK AT HIM LULS! Especialy in the computer game where you can take so much damage that at times youre running around as a clean adamantite skeleton - its sooo t-888.
FRINGE has a sh*%load of viewers. It was never on the bubble, so-to-speak.
Well procedural dramas are always the easy road even if leans toward high-concept drama. Easier to sell, easier to get viewers. JJ Arbrahams as a creator does probably also help. The thing is Fringe hasn’t really delivered anything really revolutionary new and it is stil a very predictable show - but I must admit it still executed well. It’s just not that memorable which I think is one of T:TSCC advantages if it will stick around for a couple of seasons more.
I still believe that MANY of Fringe’s viewers would fall in love with Terminator if they actually watched a few episodes, and didn’t rely on the promos to tell them what this show is all about.
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/2939/wolverinep.jpg
That doesnt feel like terminator at all
Latest poll stats from LA Times:
Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles 46.6%
Chuck 22.3%
Dollhouse 21.5%
From 143535 total votes.
Zap2it
T:SCC
Keep it 92% (46799 votes)
Kill it 8% (4346 votes)
Our best contender on that poll is again Chuck
Keep it 79% (11005 votes)
Kill it 21% (3004 votes)
The Chuck!
EVERYONE READ CAREFULLY!!!
I just got off the phone with a staff writer at USA today, and they will report tomorrow (Wednesday, May 6, 2009), that TSCC has been canceled.
This is not the case. The writer I was interviewed by last week is being told he needs to include the cancellation notice in his article by his editor. I informed my contact (Jon) that this is not the case and no such edict has come from Fox or WB. I sent him two recent JF interviews that negate this “rumor.”
So please do not be alarmed should you see this in USA Today.
-LiquidMetal (TerminatorWiki)
My above post is a quote from Wiki member “LiquidMetal” who has contacts in various places. He’s basically warning us that USA Today is going to announce TSCC’s cancellation, but this is NOT TRUE! The show isn’t cancelled yet, so NOBODY PANIC! If you see the article in question, just ignore it.
IT’S NOT TRUE!
Viva La Resistance!
WTF? Why would they announce that then and hurt their credibility? If they do then they either know something we don’t or they are complete morons.
@Brian:
Dunno. Apparently they were told to do so. Maybe if FOX is behind this, it is part of some big publicity coup to add surprise to a sudden renewal and to “redeem” themselves in the fans’ eyes. Make FOX look like heroes.
Hey guys, did you see the new vid Hadley put up on YouTube? I’m surprised he didn’t post here about it yet. I’d link to it but i’m on my iPhone, no copy and paste.
@Lauren
I had a two part plan. Part one, help support each other to get us off the bubble and have third seasons. My plan was to share ideas, purchase DVDS and watch Hulu. And hopefully inspire both Terminator and Chuck fans. Part two, once we got third seasons, help network both fan bases to increase ratings and help create additional seasons.
If Terminator is cancelled then I am truly sorry. You guys earned every poll, no one cheated, and I am sorry a few ‘Chuckies’ made accusations. If there is any fan base that deserves a third season its you all. I sincerely hope, it is not true.
Either way you honestly have my support.
Thank you Dustin.
VIVA la Resistance!
@Kyle
Got some better search terms? What was the title of the video?
@Dustin
Okay thats cool with me. You know for a chuckie your not to bad.
It’s nice to know we have support even from some of the chuckies
GO TSCC!!!!!!!!
GO RESISTANCE!!!!
I suddenly feel the urges to sing the song from South Park’s movie…
“You see the distant flames,
they bellow in the night.
You fight in all our names
for what we know is right.
And when you all get shot
and cannot carry on,
though you die,
La Resistance lives on.”
http://www.stlyrics.com/songs/s/southpark9849/howardmcgillinlaresistancemedley983775.html
So should we wait for the USA Today article then bury them in comments saying they’re full of it? Fox would be stupid to cancel TSCC, link to E! Online, Friedman comments, movie tie in, DVR, Zap2it poll, etc
Man thats pretty scary usa today has some pretty good creds, but that might free up another network or direct tv to step in like they did for friday night lights, but it will still suck
This is the comment I made for the article on Wired:
Posted by: Alexis_TSCC | 05/5/09 | 11:14 pm
TSCC is the best show on TV by far.
The reasons:
Smart writing.
The writers do have a plan and you can see this clearly if you catch up all the details and subtleties instead of watching the show superficially - the narrative sense-making is not built up by episode but as a whole, at the end of the season all the questions were brilliantly answered and new exciting possibilities were left open with an amazing and totally unexpected twist at the very end of the season.
Thought provoking.
Thematically, TSCC explored some of the most relevant issues regarding our contemporary society and deepen into some taboo and controversial topics.
Emotionally intense.
It has:
Deep character developments.
+
Great performances.
+
Amazing twists.
+
Sensational FX and make-up artists.
All of which make the story amazingly intense and truly believable. This perfect mix between smart writing, brilliant acting and outstanding technical skills creates the perfect atmosphere for the audience to be amazed, entertained and deeply connected, in an emotional level, to laugh and cry along with their favorite characters.
The writers knew well how to build up solid and original plot developments on the basis of one of the biggest Hollywood franchises with billions of crazy fans all around the world. Some plot devices were introduced prematurely in second season because of some internal pressures which affected the rhythm of the story, that’s true, but Josh Friedman and his amazing team of writers and co-producers managed to get through this and get back on track with the original plan.
The result: The last 6 episodes not only recovered the rhythm but were truly MEMORABLE ones and gave us back the best of the best I’ve ever seen on TV, which has certainly expanded the Terminator mythology, remaining loyal to James Cameron’s original concept and his massage of HOPE crystallized on this phrase: “If a terminator can learn the value of human life, maybe we can too” [T2]. TSCC is all about HOPE. All the cool Terminators in the movies and the series are just a metaphor implemented in order to deliver this message of HOPE, guys, don’t forget that.
There’s no fate but what WE make.
Alexis
Post your comments, Resistance!!
http://www.wired.com/underwire/2009/05/sarah-connor-chronicles/
KEEP VOTING ON THE POLLS!!!
Hang in there, baby!
@Etienne: Great idea!!
Viva la Resistance!!
wow i think everyone fell asleep… ON YOUR FEET SOLDIERS!!! wich means WAKE UP!!
@Veran
Seems like another twist in the drama.
From a positive perspective all the negative “news” creates some good storytelling around the survival of the show. It gets people angry, news articles with new comments from writers stating what has been said is just crap will be printed, and new campaigns will start. (I wonder though if we focus on too many things at once.)
Still, funny that a paper like USA Today would jump on the bandwagon. Again, it shows that the fate of the show and what happens with the Terminator franchise in general seems to be newsworthy for news editors.
Fingers crossed we get more Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles coverage from CNN (but also other news channels) - we could need it, like now… (especially if it needs to be done to debunk a new bunch of cancellation articles like the one rumoured coming from USA today)
@Lauren
SIR! YES! SIR!
@MattLive
Agree with you, but remember the ONLY AND LAST WORD is from FOX. Anyway, whatever generates more buzz better for us
11:15PM report
LA Times poll
Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles 46.7%
Chuck 22.2%
Dollhouse 21.4%
From 143678 total responses
Zap2it poll
T:SCC Keep it 92% (47353 votes)
Kill it 8% (4361 votes)
TOTAL VOTES: 51714
Chuck Keep it 77% (11065 votes)
Kill it 23% (3292 votes)
TOTAL VOTES: 14357
Great numbers!
KEEP FIGHTING, RESISTANCE!!!
And don’t forget the poll @ Sci-Fi Wire! We need Sci Fi Channel’s attention as well.
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=3&id=63153
@Alexis
That Sci-fi poll is really old.Its from like December.It is a old weekly poll.Look at the articals on the page.
So here’s the infamous article in USA Today:
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2009-05-05-flash-activists-protests_N.htm
It is about the efficiency of punctual activisim, protesting against an event, through social online tools like Facebook, MySpace and the rest.
For those of us who, like me a French Canadian living in Montreal, have almost never heard of USA Today, let’s just say that it appears to only newspaper of importance that is distributed across the whole US. It does not appear to be very influential, not nearly as much as the NY Times, LA Times, Washington Post, Walstreet Journal and a dozen others.
Here’s the passage that is of some (very margina IMHO) interest for us:
Sometimes, the campaigns fall short. Fans of the Fox sci-fi series Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles joined forces on websites, created communities on Facebook and MySpace, and uploaded videos to YouTube to keep the show on the air.
Amy Cartas, 27, of Riverside, Calif., last month uploaded a video in support of the show to YouTube. So far, 13,000 have viewed it.
“We’re trying to reach Fox, (its producer) Warner Bros. and Halcyon, which owns the rights to the Terminator franchise,” says Bill Flynn, 62, a retiree in Clarkston, Mich., who is moderator of a Terminator Wiki site with 5,000 members.
Fox, however, is expected to cancel the show
Sorry for the typos and missing words even: I have to go to work.
@Innocent
It was neither negative nor positive towards our issue. Interesting summary of todays use of new media in democratic ways.
The article could’ve been worse. I guess because of it neutral stance it probably won’t stir up too much drama amongst T:TSCC fans.
Chuck vs. the Terminator References
I am aware that something I will say in this post will offend someone, somehow (so upfront I am apologizing).
It is clear that Sarah Connor has a thing for nerds (I finished watching Queen’s Gambit last night). Perhaps if she had decided to buy space-age phones of the future from her local BUY MORE, she might have met Chuck Bartowsky instead of Andy Good. Of course Chuck’s charm is undeniable, so I can’t help but wonder what John and Cameron would think about Sarah’s nerd love? Of course, things didn’t work out so well for Andy . . .
Here is something fun. There are three episodes of Chuck (that you could watch tonight on Hulu) with terminator references. I have listed them in order of significance of the reference:
3. Season One, Episode Two: Chuck vs. The Helicopter
Chuck in a store, running from a scary man, tells the clerk: “There is a scarry guy in leather jacket, kind of Terminator looking. . .”
2. Season Two, Episode 15: Chuck vs. The Beef Cake
Sarah Walker is pinned underneath a car as a Apache Helicopter tries to mow her down with mounted Gatling guns. Sarah is saved by an N-6 Agent, who extending his hand to her says, “Come with me if you want to live.”
1. Season Two, Episode 16: Chuck vs. The Lethal Weapon
A conversation at the Buy More between Jeff, Lester and Morgan (includes a direct reference to Cameron). Jeff: “She (Ana) is like a robot from the future sent to steal the life from you.” Lester (correcting Jeff): “No she is a Cybernetic-Organism.”
There you have it two 3 Terminator references in Chuck. Next Season if Sarah needs help stopping Skynet, she might want a little Chuck.
@innocent Merci pour le lien. Je suis de la region de Montreal aussi.
Even if the USA Today article use a neutral tone, I didn’t like what they say about TSCC… That our efforts fall short… WE DON’T KNOW what fox will do with the show! Damn!
Why the press, in majority, glorify Chuck and bash TSCC? I’m just wondering.
HAAAAAAA, feel much better now!!!
Fox’s Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles may also be brought back, thanks to a Twitter campaign by fans.
Sometimes, the campaigns fall short. Fans of the action-comedy series Chuck joined forces on websites, created communities on Facebook and MySpace, and uploaded videos to YouTube to keep the show on the air.
John Henry, 37, of Zeira Corp., Calif., last month uploaded a video in support of the show to YouTube. So far, 13,000 have viewed it.
“We’re trying to reach NBC, (its producer) Warner Bros. and College Hill Pictures, which owns the rights to Chuck,” says Catherin Weaver, a liquid metal moderator in Los Angeles, who is the mastermind behind a Chuck Wiki site with 5,000 members.
NBC, however, is expected to cancel the show.
Let see if this one will fall short or not:
If you are reading this message, YOU are THE RESISTANCE!
In an unprecedented effort to save TSCC, I ask that every Resistance Fighter send an email to askfox@fox.com on Friday May 8th between 8PM/7PMc and 9PM/8PMc (old TSCC schedule on FOX). No need to wrote an elaborate email: Just ask FOX to renew TSCC for a 3rd season.
What’s important is to send as much emails as possible at that precise date and time. PLEASE only 1 email per person (we don’t want to spam them, we want to be heard).
Thanks to pass that message to every TSCC friends.
Will you join us?
Etienne,
Canadian TSCC Resistance
You can count me in, E! I’ll send that email.
10 Reasons I loved “Queens Gambit”
1. Cameron encounters simple machines
2. Counseling with a Terminator (funny stuff).
3. Brian Austin Green (who knew he was on the show).
4. John was a cute 8 year old
5. If a Terminator wants to go to jail, he just punches a cop in the face. . .oddly effective
6. Sarah realizes John has an uncle
7. Two 90 lb women took out a swat car
8. Big fight scene on the move
9. Cameron’s response to pulling out the chip.
10. Return of the Paramedic
I loved it, best episode thus far!
Chuck vs. The Cancellation of Terminator:
Earlier this month we launched our Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles contest by asking you, the fans, to answer a thought-provoking question:
If you had the power, what would you do RIGHT NOW in order to create a better world in the future?
This week we got an answer from Zachary Levi, the star of the NBC Comedy/Action series Chuck! (In support of Terminator):
Zachary Levi:
“I’d try to lower the price on the Tesla Roadster, the electric car from $100,000 to $20,000. If there was a cool, low price electric car like that more people would buy one.” End our dependency on foreign oil, and think of how clean the air would be! Sounds like a real win, win. And by the way. . .
THIS is a Tesla Roadster. Pretty cool, huh?
In about 50 years we’ll begin to grasp the brilliance that was Nikola Tesla.
@Dustin
Next episode on season 1 is called “Dungeons & Dragons”. That episode will show you why this show is special and should stay on the air.
Dungeons and Dragons!
There’s the test for any true T:SCC aficionado
Lots of drama, lots of tension, lots of unanswered questions and just a bit of action. The craziness of the series starts right there.
Dustin, you could sell a computer to Skynet: I’ll watch 1-2 episodes of Chuck tonight.
As for Mr. Levi: is he a blond beauty contestant?
Chuck vs. The Blond Beauty Contestant
Mr. Levi is CHUCK! They sent out a request for fans of TSCC and Chuck responded, as a FAN! I am posting this in all Chuck forums to help rally Chuck fans to my call to save both our shows! If Chuck is a fan of TSCC. . . maybe Team Bartowsky should be to?
@Innocent
I totally missed the point of your joke. I get it now, it does sound like he is answering a question for a pageant. lol. . .
Do you have a link to Levi’s statement regarding TSCC Dustin? Kudos to him.
Nevertheless Dustin, you are making a very strong case for him. Are you always that much… ermmm… persitant?
@Sam
lol srry i have bad spelling skills when im typing rly fast
Inoccent your awake!! I thought everyone died last night and left me
@J: Yep, I know, but it’s not closed yet. When you add a new vote the metter changes.
____________________
Sounds like someone realized about the strenght of TSCC’s fanbase (A. K. A The Resistance) and desperately wants to call our attention.
Sorry, but we must focus on OUR campaign right now. There’s no time to get distracted.
KEEP FIGHTING, RESISTANCE!!!
@Dust
Dungeons and Dragons(as any nerd can attest) is indeed a THOUGHT PROVOKING episode. It is where you will begin to see the layers of this show start to unfold. More B.A.G. at his best.
@ Lauren LOL
Awake? Better be since I am at work (lunch time).
Don’t you ever sleep? Where do you spend your nights then, in public libraries ?
@ Innocent
i sleep….. with my eyes open in front of the computer..
This isnt cool
http://www.wired.com/underwire/2009/05/sci-fi-smackdown-sarah-connor-vs-dollhouse/
@ innocent
lol and i also type in my sleep. Force of habbit.
I actually sleep walk too. Muahaha ( jk )
@Robert
Too short timespan for poll. Please comment that here:
http://www.wired.com/underwire/2009/05/sci-fi-smackdown-sarah-connor-vs-dollhouse/
With more time and we would’ve taken that poll without any problem.
Chuck vs. Team Bartowsky:
Okay, I have been working blogs really hard and I finally have some street credit in most of them. So here is where you all come in. I will be posting the TOP 5 Reasons to watch Terminator and buy it NOW, on several Chuck boards. So I want some suggestions, so give me your best. They can be anything from Actors to Action, to Suspense, to anything. Just give me your TOP 5. Common’ and help me out! We need to generate Terminator revenue and I am convinced I have Team Bartowsky on the ropes and ready to help (at least some of them).
We can do it! Once we are off this bubble we can save America from terrorists and stop skynet together!
k cool Dustin! Well guys i got to get going cya all later
waiting for Summer-fans, please check in http://tinyurl.com/cwgug5
Ha! You guys got beat on a poll, and to dollhouse none the less?! That is rich.
Yeah a poll concentrated only on twitter that lasted for less than a day and that none of us knew about. Lameee….
Yes. We were devestated 125 to 77. LOL!
http://terminatorwiki.fox.com/page/Summer+Glau+interview+at+FedCon+Germany+2009
Nice interview from da WIKI (my apologies if it has been posted already).
http://hadleyk.com/2009/05/05/sarah-connor-extra-footage/
Keep up the good work everyone!
Don’t forget i09s Sarah made me do it campaign on Flickr. Take a picture of yourself with a sponsor product and the text: “Sarah made me do it” Upload your image to your Flickr account and link it to this group:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/1105265@N23/
(For inspiration check what people have already put up in the group)
I would really hope we could get over a 100 images or more on this site before May 18. Right now it looks like we only have 18 people so br creative and upload something to this Flick group please. It does not take long and brings attention. Will YOU help?
Chuck vs. Team Bartowsky 2
Glad I didn’t hold my breath. Terminator fans, please give me your TOP 5 reasons to watch and buy Terminator! I am asking for helping in gathering this to spread the word about your show and help generate revenue. Thanks!
Here is an example. 1 reason to watch Chuck:
Reason One: Chuck!
Chuck is anything but James Bond. But the reluctant spy is finally starting to embrace his alter ego, Charles Carmichael. Unfortunately for Chuck the government has him constantly on call, destroying his hopes for a ‘normal’ life. Nerd by day, secret agent by night.
Dustin,
this is daytime: can we work a little bit?
OK, 5 minutes till break finishes: what I find most special about T:SCC is that I can watch it 3-4 times and still find something more to see. IOW the stories and the acting are so rich that it is like packing two hours into 45 minutes for each episode.
I’ll give you a simple example that you will understand because you have seen the episode ‘Gnothi Seauton’ (Socrates’ ‘Know Yourself’): when Sarah imagines a whole scenario to explain the presence of Cameron to the officer, she first had all my attention since I really was curious to see where she was going with that. On the second viewing though I couldn’t believe that I had missed Summer’s acting: just look at her reactions all along which really sell the scene. The third time I realized that the whole scene is pure Laurel and Hardy. That is great work.
Ciao
@Innocent
Good good I like it! That is the stuff I need. Keep it coming, everyone just throw your thoughts out there, can’t be wrong in brainstorming!
Ouf! Another day done!
Come on now guys, help Dustin a bit.
He’s made enough efforts and he has shown enough resiliency to be admitted in the Resistance comes JD.
I am also curious about what you find to be the number 1 reason (past Summer/Lena/BAG…) to love T:SCC.
Pretty please?
@Dustin
I like the subtle development of Cameron’s character. A cyborg, whom the writers manage to create loads of personality for. Besides being a different model, certain things happen (I wont spoil anything for you) that allow her to ‘develop’ as a character in a way other terminators could not. Underneath Cameron’s poised surface lie emotions subtly boiling to the surface.
Also Summer’s blunt affect is uncanny. There is reason everyone is impressed with her in the show, she plays the role better then anyone could.
Also, while I am a Chuck fan (I have stated that in the past), Chuck lacks the intelligence of Terminator. Chuck is a great straight forward funny, exciting show, but Terminator has layers some of which take seasons to peal.
Also don’t forget to send letters. In the end this may have an effect. It has in the past. Remember Jericho?
It’s really now or never. So go old school - use a stamp :). And if possible print out a picture of a microchip with the text:
“Is this what John was looking for?”
(Or go for any other creative idea like sending a old cell phone chip. Although send no batteries or anything that that can be remotely identified as a bomb. Be smart and funny with your letter - not stupid.)
For more info go to Save The TSCC:
http://www.savethescc.com/letter.html
Help John find Cameron by sending you letter before the weekend.
Correction:
Help John find Cameron by sending YOUR letter before the weekend.
Which is kinda, like right now.
I consider myself to be the biggest TSCC fan on the planet - though I realize a number of you could give me a good run for my money. That said, I love Chuck also. To me, Chuck vs. TSCC isn’t an either/or proposition. I enjoy both for different reasons. When I want to be “heartwarmed”, I watch Chuck and his goofy friends (which is perhaps the best ensemble cast on television). When I want my mind blown and my heart pounding in my throat, I watch TSCC. It’s that simple. They don’t complete against each other, they are on different networks at different times, so no worries. Support both, or either. While I’m first and foremost a TSCC fan, there’s room for a bit of Chuck and Sarah, Ellie and Awesome, and all the misfits who inhabit Buymoria.
http://www.voote.com/jsp/WAppServerPage.jsp?TransID=RVOTES00&VoteID=7097
Vote for John Connor+Cameron as best on-screen couple!
We’re ranked number 8 so far…
(I’m actually disappointed Chuck+Blair are ranked 5th, too)
voted!
Voted but consider that T:SCC has a very marginal romantic aspect. Moreover the Jallisonians, who are surprisingly numerous, won’t vote.
We should be voting for Summer and Thomas not the characters they portray necessarily
Did anyone consider Chuck before creating this poll?!
BTW what the heck is a JallIsonians?
JAllison? Yuck. Proud Jameron fan myself. n.n
Buuuut… it’s still just another poll to demonstrate our power! n.n
Chuck vs. Strange Terminator Language
What the ? Are you all talking about?
I agree with Brian from Canada!
@Dustin:
Rude, much?
@Logan
Thanks for your take on why you like Terminator.
@Innocent
Were you asking me, what I like most about Terminator?
Honestly what poll wouldn’t include Chuck and Sarah?! (we would just lose that one anyway)
Sure you do! LOL
Dustin,
Jameron is a contraction of John (Connor) and Cameron (Philips);
Jallison is a contraction of John again and Allison (Young). I won’t tell you who she is since it is at the heart of the “Allison From Palmdale” episode (maybe the best one of season 2, prior to the last 4).
Jallison would be John+Allison
Jameron would be John+Cameron
@Lucila (thanks)
What about Charah?!
Well, these terms are coined by fans, I believe…
(other examples, in the Firefly genre, would include Maliver-Mal+River, Rayne-River+Jayne…)
Chuck vs. The Choice of John Connor’s Love Life:
Clearly John should pick the Cyborg (unless the other is a cyborg too, which invalidates my original argument)!
@innocent
What do you mean TSCC has a marginal romantic aspect? The plot kinda turns on John’s feelings for Cameron. He pointed a gun at Sarah and Derek to protect Cameron, and now he’s gone to the future to get her chip back. It’s not “marginal” in the least. It’s very central to the story.
Furthermore, we should vote for any aspect of TSCC. We want it to win every poll out there.
Because she is a cyborg (Allison is human)?
I would understand that he’d love Cameron because she is brave in every sense of the world but prefer her just because she is metal? What’s so wrong with warm blooded human women?
“…the world…”= the word
@Innocnet
I must warn you, even to make a point, I have a low aversion and fear of logic!
Logan:
I thought that it was about stopping JD if possible, what to do if the singularity (sentient cyborgs) happens, a mother who has to renounce her life to protect her son and save the human race… John rushed into the future because he is still an adolescent. Future John wouldn’t have.
My favorite that contraction I think I’ve coined is Cameron + John Henry = Camry. It answers the question, what do you get when 2 terminators get together? A car.
Okay - I know it’s lame, but I couldn’t resist.
Summer’s on XKCD!
http://xkcd.com/579/
Innocent - the plot turns on Johns feelings for Cameron. Season 2 begins and ends with John dealing with his feelings for Cameron. That’s how the story has pivoted from season to season.
Logan: that may explain the drop from 17 millions to 4 millions viewers. Turning Terminator into a romantic drama would be short sighted indeed.
I disagree with your assessment also: this element does exists and is a motor for the story, just like Sarah’s mistakes are, but everything in between S&D and B2R has been about something else. To prove my point I’ll remind you that the Jameronians have been complaining about it all along the season.
@Dustin
Yeah, Charah would work. So would Suck :^D
Personally? I voted for Lois and Clark. Been a Smallville fan for years, and they have great chemistry together. I am decidedly NOT a Jameronian, nor am I a Jallisonian (flame-suit on).
As the all-seeing ReCaptcha-Nator says: its pivotal
Logan: the joke was excellent. It will become a classic. I do hope that Camy won’t end up with JH: her heart and place is with JC… although I hope that she’ll stop looking at him slavishly, like when he was trying to fix her hand.
I actually consider myself A Jileyian. LOL!
The drop from 17 million to 4 million can be explained easily: We know longer have the Superbowl for a lead-in. After that pilot episode, Season one averaged between 4-5 million viewers in the 18-49 demo. http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/03/29/nielsen-ratings-for-terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles/3115
I also think you misunderstand me. It is a fact that the plot PIVOTS on John’s feelings for Cameron from one season to the next. It is the element of the plot that the writers use to change the story. It is a very important part of the underlying story. It’s not a “marginal” element.
I’m dying for an *edit* button on this blog.
Logan: in that sense I agree.
About the ratings I was kidding
Dustin: began to watch Chuck. Look like a self deprecating comedy: bad start for me as I favor winners. It seems to be intelligent though. His sister is a total bimbo.
@innocent
Keep watching. Chuck’s character actually changes quite a bit in the first two seasons.
@innocent
Don’t go attacking Ellie Bartowski - them’s fighting words. She isn’t a bimbo - she represents home for Chuck and all he’s fighting to protect. That actress, Sarah Lancaster, is the reason I began watching Chuck in the first place.
As far as the self-deprecating humor you are correct, but Chuck is a winner. The arc of that tale is how a nerd becomes a superhero and gets the girl. It is following the same arc as spiderman in that sense.
Yikes!
I have learned not to attack Terminator here, but apparently I shouldn’t attack Chuck either!
@Innocent
I think it is great you gave Chuck a try. That is all I could ask for! Thanks.
TSCC and Chuck are my 2 favorite shows. I carve out time in my schedule to see them. The difference is that after watching a Chuck episode once, I’m satisfied. I have to watch a TSCC at least 10x before I’m satisfied that I caught everything. No kidding.
man, i want to no nowwwwwwwww. this sucks. anyway,,,, if every one goes and sees the terminator movie on its opening day then fox will think “oh, people love the terminator movie, lets give tscc another shot”
johnconnorson: unfortunately the movie opens on the 21st while the decision will already have been taken on May 18th.
I too find it hard to not know but go and read the interview Summer gave in Germany lately and you’ll see how tough the T:SCC crew of actors, writers and artisans have it themselves. They know nothing of the outcome, they have no contracts, can’t accept no offer…
http://terminatorwiki.fox.com/page/Summer+Glau+interview+at+FedCon+Germany+2009
@Logan: same here. There is not much to reflect upon, no density or subtle acting, with Chuck but it is quite entertaining and won’t let you sleep.
Man I hope it gets renewed
Sarah Lancaster… Man I miss Everwood. That’s where I first found out about her. Hope terminator nor chuck have a similar fate.
pineapple!
@Dustin: I agree that we should work together. I’ve never seen Chuck, but I’m going to watch an episode on Hulu right now and we’ll go from there. The shows are on different networks so it’s not a competition (except in polls, of course) and there’s no reason we shouldn’t team up. (BTW…the below comments are general comments and not meant to be directed at you or the Chuck fans.)
Everyone else….Please, please, please DO NOT bash other shows when you’re commenting on articles, even if others have bashed us. It just makes all the T:SCC fans look like idiots. We should all know the saying “don’t feed the trolls”. For those that haven’t heard it…ignore the jerks and they either 1. go away or 2. look like morons. Keep your comments focused on how much you love T:SCC and how awsome it is. I’d also like to remind everyone of what they say about arguing on the Internet…
http://www.stimpco.com/carpix/arguingOnTheInternet.gif
Use your energy for promoting the show, not arguing with morons.
WTF? What’s going on with you guys? Dustin is turning our Resistance Fighters into Chuckies! LOL!!
Hey, Dustin, teach me your brainwashing techniques!! Seems to be working pretty effectively here, huh?
What is this about? TSCC or Chuck? ‘Cause I think we’re missing the point here… I think if you wanna talk about other series there are specific forums and blogs for that.
This blog is about TERMINATOR: THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES!!
And we have a mission, Resistance. Please, don’t get distracted!!
KEEP FIGHTING!!!
The future is not set.
There’s no fate but what WE make.
@ Dustin
i dont think that we got beat in ONE poll is very hillarious!
But think wat u will *coughs wat can u exspect from a chuckie*
Damn Reneeccski!
You were doing so well until you quoted that stupid poster. I’ve been a specialized educator for the first 10 years of my professional life. I can assure you that I know more than a couple of those ‘retarded’ winners, as you say, against whom you will never measure up.
Alexis: a good soldier knows how and when to relax: he is finish the minute he starts obsessing with the fight. Things are a bit idle and it is good to rest. It is more important to know how and when to pick one’s battles.
@ Dustin: as I said it was entertaining. I am not going to watch that episode again but I may watch more if time allows whenever I feel the need to stop thinking and, hopefully, have a laugh.
Thanks.
@Alexis
I dont think were getting distracted u cant be up-tight and going crazy all the time.
@ Innocent
omg! we like said the same thing but in a dif way lol
OMG!! im turning into Innocent!! I think ive been around those Indo-Skeleton fumes to long @_@
@Alexis : Totally agree with you…
We have to fight for TSCC and put all our energy to reach one goal: Get a 3rd season. Don’t get distracted.
May be Chuck is a good show, I don’t know, I never watched. But this blog is about TSCC so keep it that way.
Thanks.
Yo just relax guys were voting for TSCC its not like were voting for Chuck!
and were talking about TSCC episodes. What else could we possibly do?
Cool. TSCC made the list of ‘Best on screen couple for a TV drama‘. So far we are now up to 7th with 7.29%
So go vote for TSCC John and Cameron (Yes Jameron) as best couple if you haven’t already!
http://www.voote.com/jsp/WAppServerPage.jsp?TransID=RVOTES00&VoteID=7097
Yes Jameron rocks and I SOOOOO want that season 3!!!
I’m with Alexis and Etienne. We need to focus on the objective. Only a few days left.
@innocent:
On how and when to relax:
How: Celebrating the announcement of the 3rd season. *fingers crossed*
When: May 18.
On how and when to pick one’s battles:
When: Whenever you can and as often as humanly possible.
How: Voting, sending e-mails to Fox, WB and Sci Fi, writing comments everywhere, spreading the word around the globe.
This is not about an obsession, it’s about dedication and PASSION for the show we love, my friend.
A good soldier knows when the time has come to fight till the end. When one’s life depends on it, there’s no time for long term strategies, you just fight till your last breath for the noble cause you and many others, The Resistance, our brothers in arms, believe in. [All this metaphorically speaking, of course
].
Etienne’s strategy looks good. I think we all should be massively sending our e-mails on friday night. Maybe with something creative and funny like this picture along with the pictures of the chips, like others suggested, and the links to the different polls we won, etc, etc.
Only together, as one, we can make the difference.
And we will never stop.
And keep voting for Summer here: http://www.tv.com/favorite-tv-stars/female/index.html
She’s dropped 1% to 74%. Don’t give any ground on any poll.
Thanks Etienne and Snake.
Hope the rest of you understand I’m not against any other show, but I think this blog is meant for TSCC and should remain that way. Discussions on other TV shows belong to their respective fansites/forums.
We need to focus on our mission.
Thank you for your cooperation.
When I said: “Maybe with something creative and funny like this picture” I forgot to post the link, sorry.
Here it is: http://sarahconnorsociety.net/2009/05/06/save-terminator-the-sarah-connor-chronicles/#comments
Plenty of drama about Chuck here, huh?
Don’t forget it’s very little time to make a difference so don’t forget to try and send letters before the weekend! In the end this may have an effect. It has in the past. Remember Jericho?
SEND YOUR SAVE TERMINATOR: THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES LETTER TO FOX - NOW
It’s really now or never. So go old school - use a stamp :). And if possible print out a picture of a microchip with the text:
“Is this what John was looking for?”
(Or go for any other creative idea like sending a old cell phone chip. Although send no batteries or anything that that can be remotely identified as a bomb. Be smart and funny with your letter - not stupid.)
For more info go to Save The TSCC:
http://www.savethescc.com/letter.html
Help John find Cameron by sending YOUR letter before the weekend. Also tell a friends and family to do the same. It may really be too late to send any letters next week!
As someone pointed out - vote for Cameron and John as best (odd) TV couple. (In way they are perfect. I find them interestin interact probably because they really never ever will be together in that way - which in a way if you think about it IS a great TV couple.)
Cameron + John = True?
We’re only on 7th place at the moment. So if YOU want to beat the more classical love couple just to make a point VOTE HERE:
http://www.voote.com/jsp/WAppServerPage.jsp?TransID=RVOTES00&VoteID=7097
And don’t forget to send that old-school Save the show letter to FOX before the weekend! (See my previous comment.)
I voted but that’s a shame were in 7th place. We can vote on those sites but we must remember to vote on USA ect. If you suggest votes I suggest we say this is high importance and this is second, but then again the resistance can handle anything right? Just don’t forget to focus on whats important. I think someone suggested spamming their emails all at once, just let us know. The new movements don’t need a leader, just info and everyone doing their part.
@Alexis
Agree 100% with you. Like I said before,(in a rude way, sorry bout that) this forum is for TSCC not CHUCK nor any other show.
Now we’re on 6th place at Best TV couple keep voting Resistance!
Hy guyz, it’s italian resistance here,
we have been mailing Fox and Wb since TSCC ended, and we’ll never stop!
I’m a bit surprised about this discussion about Chuck vs TSCC…
i think that we respected all the other show’s fans, and we are legitimate to continue our fighting for givin TSCC a 3rd season !
We are well organized, and we have a beautiful season finale…this is because we want more and more !!
Chuck’s fans can do like us and trying to light hell on web and mail. But was Chuck renewed yesterday ?!?
Please FFFFOOOOXXX AANNNDDD WWAARRNNEERRRR BRROOOSSSS !!!!!
SEND YOUR “SAVE TERMINATOR: THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES” LETTER TO FOX - NOW
It’s really now or never. So go old school - use a stamp :). And if possible print out a picture of a microchip with the text:
“Is this what John was looking for?”
(Or go for any other creative idea like sending a old cell phone chip. Although send no batteries or anything that that can be remotely identified as a bomb. Be smart and funny with your letter - not stupid.)
For more info go to Save The TSCC:
http://www.savethescc.com/letter.html
Help John find Cameron by sending YOUR letter before the weekend. Also tell a friends and family to do the same. It may really be too late to send any letters next week!
I am surprised to discover that there are so many Jessies here to freak out if some of the Resistance speak of an Alliance with the dissenters of our adversary in polls. LOL
BTW, please try to remember that these are only TV shows
Damn Jameron’s in fourt place on the best on-screen couple poll:
http://www.voote.com/jsp/WAppServerPage.jsp?TransID=RVOTES00&VoteID=7097
Nice. Let’s get them to number one and beat both Grey’s anatomy and One Tree Hill and show that McDreamy really has no chance against JC.
Another interview with Brian Austin Green done for Geek out loud. Steve is on the Skynext podcast too.
http://geekoutpodcast.com/2009/05/
Chuck v. Dungeons and Dragons:
As promised I continue to do my work for the resistance (and yes I am raising some Chuck awareness). I personally had two of my friends buy TSCC on DVD last night after letting them borrow the Disc 1. So that is a start, right? I have lots of people on this blog and others who say they are going to watch each others shows, but no way to verify it. Just have to keep working. I do consider myself a part of your rag-tag team of rebels. Expanding TSCC audience, is a good thing!
So I watched D&D. I didn’t care for it. It was a total shift from how the show was working. I understand there was some depth to it, such as clearly Derek killed Andy, because Andy confessed to building Skynet. Even though in the past Derek denied. Also, I do wonder, what happened in the basement? I am guessing they forced Derek to watch thousands of encoded pictures for several hours so it downloaded into his subconscious. Just a hunch.
Thanks for all your support, and for accepting me as a part of your crew. When I write letters to WB, I have a second template for TSCC and send them together.
@Matt
I agree letter writing can be effective.
@Matt
Is there anything in your letters for TSCC you use as a format? I would be interested in it, if there is.
@Dustin
Believe me Dustin you probably will watch “Dungeons & dragons” again. It’s not over the top action but the dynamic between characters are soo nicely executed in this episode and the pacing is perfect.
The payoff in “Dungeons & dragons” is however usually better if you have an emotional investment in the first two terminator movies. This is because it plays both on the dynamic between Sarah and John and their experiences in the movies, but also how that relates to the relations with the new characters introduced in T:SCC.
That’s why it demands a bit more of the viewers. I like to compare it to watching a great episode of your favorite TV show where you read all the nuances in story and characters because you have seen the show for three or four seasons. This is the same feeling - but it’s only the first season!
If you are up for the ride seing more episodes expect some more depth and some very good character development stories, combined with some great action scenes. Some episodes may demand to be viewed again to see the small stuff that might have passed you by. I see that as quality TV.
This could be everything from a good action scene, to a great quote, a metaphor, an emotional scene where the characters aren’t really saying much but where the performance says it all (Check Thomas Dekker who plays John Connor. He’s great in doing that).
“The demons hand” is the next episode. There’s a “great goose bump test” for you somewhere in the episode at a great emotional moment.
@dustin
Best to write you own but you can start using parts from this one:
Dear Fox,
I am writing as a fan of Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles to thank FOX for the support they have shown the show thus far. I have been following this quality program since the first season and have watched avidly as it only got better and better.
I believe that this is a truly unique and intelligent series, the perfect blend of action, drama and dark humour. It stands out amongst its peers in its high quality, thought provoking narrative. This is the only show that has been able to carry a certain style and pacing not many TV shows dare to have and it has created a good basis for some very engaging and smart stories. I think this really diversify Fox’s reach of great scripted shows and I truly believe that the television world will have lost something great if Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles is cancelled.
I have supported the show in every way that I can as a fan: I watch it live every week, rewatch it online at FOX.com, have purchased both the Season One DVDs and the official soundtrack and purchase Season Two episodes from iTunes. I eagerly await the release of the Season Two Blu-rays and I have aldready pre-ordered my copy.
I hope that when the decision regarding renewal is made for Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, FOX will take into account the quality of the show it has on its hands, its potential for growth, and the support of its very loyal fan base. Until then, I’m looking forward to Friday nights with Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles and Dollhouse, as well as the release of Terminator: Salvation.
Thank you,
X
Top 5 Reasons to Watch and Buy Terminator NOW:
1. Actors: Lena Haley: may play a better Sarah Connor then the original! She manages to show simultaneously smother, protect, and provide John freedom to grow.
Summer Glau: Does an excellent job playing a different kind of terminator sent to protect John Connor. Not only is she is protector, she is also playing the role of his sister. Without delivering corny lines, she manages to capture the essence of what a cybernetic organism might be like.
2. Action: Terminator at its heart is a drama to be sure - but it also includes a fair amount of shotguns and pistols. Also (one feature you wont find elsewhere on network) SUPER HUMAN STRENGTH! Who doesn’t like to see a 100lb women rip through fences, bend crow bars, or plow through bolted doors? I know I do.
3. Subtly: Terminator is more then meets the eye (yes I know the pun). The show may seem at first glance transparent but as it culminates almost nothing is as it first appears. The shows use of future sequences helps create a rich sense of irony that few shows besides lost and heroes have managed to generate.
4. Drama: Terminator provides a great deal of high context drama. Characters intentions are not as they first appear. Characters come and go and develop dynamically sometimes within only a few episodes. The character of John (for example) transforms from pleading his mother for help in the “Pilot,” to wanting to go on the offensive and refusing to run from Skynet in “Heavy Metal.”
5. Summer Glau. . . I know, I know. . .
@Everyone
Please assist me. You know more about the show then I do. I am open to suggestions, but I need to post this quickly to generate revenue. We have less then two weeks. Sometimes it is nice to have a little help.
More support for TSCC:
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1707883/an_idle_american_assesses_dollhouse.html
@dustin
Typo on Lena HEADEY.
For me, the music is one of the top reasons.
“Acclaimed composer Bear McCreary (who also composed for Battlestar Galactica, Eureka, Rest Stop: Don t Look Back) crafts an exhilarating musical journey that captures and further enhances the nuances and all the emotional moments on this excellent series.”
More reviews can be found here if you need more convincing:
http://www.amazon.com/Terminator-Connor-Chronicles-Bear-McCreary/dp/B001FWPY0S
Buy the OST too if you guys haven’t! I’s awesome~
@Fujii
Thank you so much for your help!
Yes there were a few typos I will fix before I post. Be nice if this had an edit option.
@Fujii Itsuki
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1707883/an_idle_american_assesses_dollhouse.html
I like how the AP article you mention says it should be paired with Fringe on Tuesdays. Perhaps more high concept shows should be paired of with a less high concept show (like procedural show “Fringe”). Having two very high concept shows on the same night might be hard to build an audience.
With SCI Fi-friday as a concept passed on as a idea for the 90s, perhaps Terminator would work at a 8 o clock timeslot before Fringe, and Dollhouse (if renewed) could be on a timeslot before another more procedural driven drama on another night?
Correction in previous post: AC as in Associated Content and not AP as in Associated Press. Small detail. Over and out.
Chuck vs. the Media:
I have got to say this and it pisses me off!
How many articles start with “TERMINATOR CANCELED” and then in the article say something more like, “Fox has not made an official decision.”
I am sorry, but the Media is being really, really unfair with you guys. Doesn’t that piss you off?
Sometimes it is nice to have a little help.
@Dustin
Whoa. Totally a quote from season 2.
Yes Dustin, it does piss us off but I must say that, for my part, this has happened so often already that I am rather off of piss by now.
Matt (doing a great job you are!!) and Dustin: sending physical letters is worth many emails IMHO. It show more commitment, it has more weight, it is something that won’t die at the end of a transmission line like an email and, by law, the US postal must deliver it and the recipient must provide the means for them to do it (mail room).
The article on AC is great (I have relayed the news about it in the ‘Good News…’ thread at the Wiki).
The podcast is also great, especially if you love BAG, if you are a Star Wars maniac as he really is, and then it gets fantastic for us around minute 80 when he talks about T:SCC with a passion that reaches the listener right through the heart. He also deliver a lot of interesting tidbits and speaks about the promises that the DVDs of season 2 holds for us.
Break’s over.
Ciao Jessies. LOL :=P
Oh, I forgot:
You can digg the podcast here:
http://digg.com/television/Episode_33_B_A_G_Honkin_Podcast
Continuing my little rant about the importance of sending letters to FOX before the weekend:
SEND YOUR ?SAVE TERMINATOR: THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES? LETTER TO FOX - NOW
It?s really now or never. So go old school - use a stamp :). And if possible print out a picture of a microchip with the text:
?Is this what John was looking for??
(Or go for any other creative idea like sending a old cell phone chip. Although send no batteries or anything that that can be remotely identified as a bomb. Be smart and funny with your letter - not stupid.)
For more info go to Save The TSCC:
http://www.savethescc.com/letter.html
Help John find Cameron by sending YOUR letter before the weekend. Also tell a friends and family to do the same. It may really be too late to send any letters next week!
@Matt:
Fringe seems to be a hybrid between procedural and…high concept? At least it seems to be heading that way with the more recent episodes. CSI would be a show that is 99% procedural right? (I think they have tried to make TSCC season 2 more ‘procedural friendly’ by introducing that wall of blood. It was used for a few episodes but was never referenced again…)
I definitely think TSCC could use a lead-in like Fringe. Their core audience seems to be different from TSCC(even though it shouldn’t be) so potential to generate new viewers is there. I think people who like Fringe would like TSCC too if they can see how intelligent the series actually is (beyond its Fox given facade of ‘Hot chick with guns and killer robots from the future’). Putting it on a Friday with a headline ‘Sci-fi Friday’ just further pigeonholes it as a ‘geek show’ for those uninitiated imho. How will it gain new viewers that way?
We can see the result with Fringe. I doubt most of the American Idol fans are sci-fi fans but they probably got hooked by the freak-of-the-week they accidentally saw just before they turn the TV off…So, pairing TSCC with Fringe would be great. Or House for that matter. But as it stands, I’m fine with wherever they put it as long as they renew 3rd season…*fingers crossed*
Looks like Jameron is in 2nd place in the poll right now. First place is 3 percentage points away. Surely we can make that up today. Let’s leave these contenders in the dust!
http://www.voote.com/jsp/WAppServerPage.jsp?TransID=RVOTES00&VoteID=7097
Since SUCK wasn’t available or hell I would have even voted for JEFSTER, so I voted Jameron. . .
Chuck vs. Terminator Salvation:
I just noticed McG is the director of Terminator Salvation.
As you may have guessed he is also the executive produce of . . Chuck.
“Feeling connected?”
SUCK sounds kinda..
I would go for Shuck. n.n
Dustin:
LOL “…the executive produce…”?
McG is still in probation relative to Salvation.
Less then 35 votes separate first and second place. That’s nothing for this fanbase. Let’s own this poll today!
http://www.voote.com/jsp/WAppServerPage.jsp?TransID=RVOTES00&VoteID=7097
I hope FOX notes that every poll that Summer Glua or Anyone else from TSCC, all most any poll there in there winning
now time to go write my letter to Fox
We’ve done it! We’re in First Place! Now we need a little wiggle room, so please vote if you haven’t.
http://www.voote.com/jsp/WAppServerPage.jsp?TransID=RVOTES00&VoteID=7097
Im going logan
Crap! they wont let me vote again -_-
@ Matt
I’m writing it as fast as i can…. I wonder if it helps if u write 2..
voted…..
Great job guys, Summer is back up to 75% and has over 13.5 million votes.
Nobody likes Summer Glau? http://welovesummer.net
voted!!!! twice…ja,ja…first i voted as a visitor and then i registrated and voted again…now Im going to try to register another account to vote again..jeje..
Keep fighting Resistance!!!!!
McG is INDEED on probation. Truth be told? Chuck is one reason why I didn’t cry into my pillow the day I found out he was the director for T4.
Gawd I love the RCN now: handball negligees
@Wolife & @ Innocent
I am not sure what you mean probation? Was another director hired? I guess I am lost, and feeling less connected.
BTW as a I type this our fearful leader is pleading his case for a third season on CNN.
@Dustin,
McG’s reputation in the sci-fi community is, well…less than craptastic. Hoefully, Salvation will ’save’ him in the eyes of the faithful. ;^D
@Wolfie
The trailers looked fantastic. However, the more Terminator SCC I watch, the more I get the feeling that it is leaving out or excluding Terminator 3 as a possibility?
Wouldn’t Jameron exclude Jatherine? (I am sure this topic has probably already been discussed by the Resistance)
Perhaps Chuck’s intersect could sort out the time traveling existential problem.
@Dustin,
Yes - the trailers look great. I am hopeful and willing to give the film an open-minded fairshake.
TSCC ‘jumped’ past T3. When Sarah, John and Cameron jump forward in time in the pilot, they essentially have ‘erased’ T3 from their timeline.
@Dustin
‘Salvation’ takes place in the timeline following T3, although if you know anything about the film - John’s future is definitely ‘altered’ somehow from the one that Kyle Reese professed to Sarah Connor in T1.
Hi!
A bit off-topic, but I think I’ll reach much fans in here.
I’d like to make a skin for my Laptop - Terminator style .
No problems finding wallpapers, but i find nothing on a white background.
Should have the Terminator writing, cameron and maybe an endoskeleton.
Would be really cool if someone could help me.
thanks in advance
Alex
ps: If you found something , please send an email to a.woebel@gmx.de
Look at the resources offered up under ‘BLOGROLL” near the top of this page and to the right.
Check THIS out.
http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/column/index.cfm?columnID=11562
Has a nice blurb about our baby in the section about T4!
Hey we destroyed another poll !! JAMERON are the first !!!
Nothing’s impossible for us. The RESISTANCE keep fightin’. Over and over.
FFFFFFFFFOOOOOOOOOXXXXXX and WWWWWWAARRRNNEERRR BRROOOOSS
This WON’T stop until we get 3rd season !!
POLL:TERMINATED
sorry…. the last link is this……..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM-uN35jIic
Season 2, Episode 1: Samson & Delilah my favorite episode.This episode shows Josh Friedman is brilliant person.
You guys do you know the story of Samson & Delilah?Do research
You should consider the story when you watching this episode.
@ Wolfie
lol we Terminated it! Bc Tscc all around the globe Rock!
On tvbythenumbers there’s the usual prediction about TSCC,
update to yesterday: canceled.
But then, they put it in orange between show “in doubt”.
They don’t know anything. Just like us.
I suggest to attack this http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/05/06/theres-no-drama-at-all-in-foxs-renewal-announcements/18201/comment-page-1#comment-83661
and make the definitive TERMINATION. In perfect CAM style.
So, if everything won’t be enough to save the show, we will go out with huge fightin’
If everything go well, i will laugh for months and months and months !!!!!!
SEASON 3 please!!
Ty for the link Wolfie. By the way what do u guys think about the casting in the new movie Terminator: Salvation?
I thought they made an Interesting choice with Christian Bale as John Connor..
And what was with the “Exceptional action”? TSCC ROX!!!! and it’s awesome ACTION!
Onkel Feix.
Do a search for images on Google. Type in Summer Glau and browse through the images until you find the one that has Summer’s head and torso hanging from an assembly fixture. That image has a white background.
TvByTheNumbers are anti-TSCC nazis! I say we organize ourselves and crash their servers in protest of their constant negative TSCC coverage. It’s borderline mental illness how much they hate TSCC, yet they praise Chuck in about 15 separate articles every week. Their hostng server sucks and they crash when a lot of comments are posted in the same time period so that’s something to think about ppl!
“TvByTheNumbers are anti-TSCC nazis!”
Yeah, they sucks!
Monday: Chuck! Watch Chuck! Chuck on Monday! Don’t forget it!
Friday: Terminator will be cancel. Only Two episode… and then cancel.
And? They not only numbers. They like some series (and they always say We have to watch they favourite series), and they don’t like some series (like Terminator. And They always said: Terminator will be cancel and should be cancel. )
They want to kill Terminator. And We? We can terminate TvByTheNumbers….
Rock on IO9!
http://io9.com/5244278/how-do-you-love-sarah-connor-let-us-count-the-ways
Okay Brian, pick a time for us to initiate the attack. I’ll be there. TVBTN you have been targeted for termination.
Yah you have the right idea Brian!!
Let do it ppl!!!
Stupid Anti-TSCC website!
Again guys don’t forget:
SEND YOUR ?SAVE TERMINATOR: THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES? LETTER TO FOX - NOW
It?s really now or never. So go old school - use a stamp :). And if possible print out a picture of a microchip with the text:
?Is this what John was looking for??
(Or go for any other creative idea like sending a old cell phone chip. Although send no batteries or anything that that can be remotely identified as a bomb. Be smart and funny with your letter - not stupid.)
For more info go to Save The TSCC:
http://www.savethescc.com/letter.html
Help John find Cameron by sending YOUR letter before the weekend. Also tell a friends and family to do the same. It may really be too late to send any letters next week!
HEY GUYS……. I heard about that Terminator 4 rumor… about that jonh Connor will die and Marcus the good terminator or another will be personify jonh connor for the resistance to dont give up…. if any of that is rigth….then i think they will copy the history from our show.. because we understand that maybe in the show Cameron is leading the resistance cause john dead…. i think if McG will do a kind of same history for ending from TSCC with Marcus Write, its no good……. they are nothing that can be better that TSCC story…. if T4 is a little same… then the movie wont be great……. i think we are expecting for the story of the movie to be good, and if they didnt take cameron in theire story, then at list they have to give us a godd and an exelent story …
Matt all ready sent my letter
after some hours of work, i’ll present you my new laptop skin, currently just as a image, but very soon on my laptop
http://www.image-load.eu/show.php/160963_tscc2.jpg.html
how do you like it?
greetz
Alex
and now the real final version of the pic (the circle in the center is for the dell emblem which won’t be covered by the sticker)
http://www.image-load.eu/show.php/160966_nb.jpg.html
LEt’s plan for the weekend when everyone has more time, and just absolutely spam with as many TERMINATION: OVERRIDE mass messages as possible. What do you guys say? That means repeatedly spamming that one message on a certain article.
@Hector
Please don’t leave any eventual spoilers about the movie. That’s just disrespectful for everyone trying NOT to get on hold on every piece of information about the story of the movie before they have seen it. Watch it when it comes and discuss it with friends, but give the fans a chance to watch it before the fan talk can start on forums like this.
Leaving spoilers on an open forum risks pissing people of. So I urge you not to.
Mr Bale would have not put it this nicely
(”Think for one second - think!” some swearwords and so on…)
Still keep the excitment up. Can’t wait to see the movie myself.
@Everyone
Hey I know I am, well, the odd man out so to speak in this blog. And you may not care about my opinion, but I think trying to shut their server down wont teach them as much as laughing in their faces when your show comes back next year, by focusing your energy on snail mail and generating DVD and Hulu revenue.
Also, its not right, no matter how biased they are.
It is right because they claim not to be biased.
Hey gang, don’t forget to add comments for the AC article, thanking the writer Douglas Bilodeau. Like the CNN article, let’s flood that page with comments! It was so nice to read something POSITIVE about SCC’s chances online for once instead of all the naysayers.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1707883/an_idle_american_assesses_dollhouse.html
Yes, Matt & Dustin,
you’re right !!
It’s IMPORTANT and PRIORITARY to flood FOX and WB with mails & letters !!!
Don’t forget and KEEP FIGHTIN.
We can win every poll on the web. These are victorious battles.
But the real WAR is here, convincing Fox to giuve us 3rd season!
TVBTN…bah. What can i say? I have never read anything positive about TSCC on that website. Only lamentations and bad predictions. Always.
Maybe they’re happy this way. Glad for them, and goin’ on !
Cool interview with Summer ! She said she’s waitin’ to know…and we are waitin with her too !!!
FFFOOOXXX AND WWAARRNNEERR BBROOOSSS !!! COME ON !!!!
@ Dustin
But thats what the Resistance does
we search and if needed we destroy.
I do care about your opinion. Its your opinion and your welcome to it.
There super Biased tho!
Brian,
I like you but you should rethink this: if you ever succeed you will simply tarnish the image of the Resistance and the show. I seriously doubt that anyone among the writers or the cast would hesitate one second to disapprove such aggression.
@Dustin
You’re not odd OR out. We welcome you wholeheartedly.
Fighting FOR the show is our mission. Don’t let the tunnel-rats getcha down!
That’s why it would be some rogue resistance fighters doing it, not the commanding officers
im not even gonna look at Tvbythenumbers website anymore every time i do it makes me mad
guyz,
i wouldn’t care about others’ negative opinions…
only thing we can do is fight by our pc with mails to fox ,comments and polls.
We don’t have enemies, only one goal:
MAKE TSCC RESISTANCE’s VOICE ALL OVER THE WEB !!!
We’re doing this only, not fightin’ against Chuck (i’ve never seen it) or TVBTN.
But we can tell our opinion when we feel it’s necessary.
FFFOOOXXX AND WWAARRNNEEERR BRROOOOSSS
I like your attitude, Lauren!
Maybe this is a Chuck thing, but I think we should all have a big group hug. . . if thats not cool in the resistance then just pretend I didn’t post this.
Hang in there baby.
well im out of here for a while guyz. Got to go kick some but at basketball.
Ah la-la! Brian! LOL
lol.
*gets huge long things that extend over all the TSCC fans* GROUP HUG RESISTANCE!!!
Maybe we just give hard stares and nod real quickly at each other. ‘Nuff said.
Now Cameron and John are 1st on Best On-Screen Couple
keep voting
lol yah Wolfie that would work *looks at gun* * takes gun hits wolfie in the arm lightly*
or i could do that
@MattLive
sorry,, i wont do that again…. besides that rumor is false…. McG say that
this definely have nothing to do with what theyre plaining put in the final…
Way to go TSCC!! This is awesome. Come on FOX - We need and want a season 3! You can do it!
Chuck v. River Tam
Kung Fu Intercept Chuck v. crazy schizophrenic reader River. Anyone care to weigh in? And so that I can’t get yelled out by the resistance for side tracking ya’all - don’t forget mail and polls and e-mails and stuff. Thank you.
ps. I vote Chuck. I a guessing this is another poll I am about to lose . . .
Correct. . . Chuck has an intersect in his brain.
And this River from Serenity.
Poll closed.
HA!
…..Yo Dustin… i think everyone else is sleeping… WAKE UP YOUR SOLDIERS!!! Your not supposed to sleep!
And the winner is . . . . Dollhouse . . ?
@ ALL RESISTANCE FIGHTERS :
Let’s mobilize the Resistance troops around the world!!
As many of you may have read in his comments above, Etienne has had a great idea and we need to spread the word for all the Resistance Fighters of the world to work together as one!!
Maybe tomorrow’s too soon and we might not have the time for a good coordination of our forces around the globe. So, what about the last friday before Fox’s announcement?
Together we might flood Fox with a HUGE amount of e-mails supporting our show, plus the links to the polls we have won, etc. on Friday 15.
If you agree with this plan, please confirm, so we can coordinate our efforts and start spreading the word everywhere for all to participate.
The Resistance must stay united!!
WE WILL NEVER STOP!!
The future is not set.
There’s no fate but what WE make.
Careful Lauren…don’t poke somebody unless you want them to poke you right back!
lol well… what can i say i was bored..
- POKE -
I told ya I was gonna do it! I warned ya! ;^D
lol well it wasnt anything personal u were just the closest TSCC fan ( that wasnt ugly )
I mean seriously do u think i was gonna poke this random weird looking dude over to my left? I think not!
- patts odd looking dude on the back - its not your fault dude
WAIT HES A CHUCK FAN!!!
- pinches chuck fan -
- takes Wolfies gun shoots the chuck fan -
There ok im good
At http://www.voote.com/jsp/WAppServerPage.jsp?TransID=RVOTES00&VoteID=7097 for ‘Best on screen couple for a TV drama‘
TSCC is 1st with 21.08%!!!
John Connor & Cameron Phillips - Thomas Dekker & Summer Glau (Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles)
Jameron…best couple on TV!!!
FYI it seems that the poll will “Closes in 19 days 17 hrs 58 mins 32 secs.” And so far we have a total of 3837 Votes. So keep it up!!!
Funny, that poll won’t have any real impact on FOX’s decision, and will probably never get any coverage in the media. But again kinda funny none the less with another landslide victory with a poll like this.
Perhaps we could look at it as a practice run when the real deal comes up. It’s probably just a matter of time before sites like TV.com or E! Online runs a poll like that.
Until another real serious poll comes up, don’t forget to take time for this. It’s really now or never:
SEND YOUR “SAVE TERMINATOR: THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES” LETTER TO FOX - NOW
Go old school - use a stamp :). And if possible print out a picture of a microchip with the text:
“Is this what John was looking for?”
(Or go for any other creative idea like sending a old cell phone chip. Although send no batteries or anything that that can be remotely identified as a bomb. Be smart and funny with your letter - not stupid.)
For more info go to Save The TSCC:
http://www.savethescc.com/letter.html
Help John find Cameron by sending YOUR letter before the weekend. Also tell a friends and family to do the same. It may really be too late to send any letters next week!
If we could take the same time with those letters as we do with our voting we can have a physical impact in FOX mail room. Also it worked saving the show Jericho this way.
If FOX drops T/SCC somebody else will snatch it up, maybe give it a decent time-slot and kick FOX’s butt; kinda like trading a pitcher who comes back and no-hits the team that traded him.
@Seneca
Perhaps, but it’s more complicated. The price of producing the show is higher than any cable network show. So it leave less room for other networks to pick it up.
But fingers crossed that it would happen if it ever comes to that.
You guys promised something if we voted…I think we deserve whatever was planned.
11 days til Judgement Day
If you are reading this message, YOU are THE RESISTANCE!
In an unprecedented effort to save TSCC, I ask that every Resistance Fighter send an email to askfox@fox.com TONIGHT Friday May 8th between 8PM/7PMc & 9PM/8PMc (old TSCC schedule on FOX). No need to wrote an elaborate email: Just ask FOX to renew TSCC for a 3rd season.
What’s important is to send as much emails as possible during that precise hour. PLEASE only 1 email per person (we don’t want to spam them, we want to be heard).
Thanks to pass that message to every TSCC friends. Not much time left before FOX take their decision about TSCC future (May 18th) and we must maintain the pressure on them.
“Terminator fans are out there. They can’t be bargained with. They can’t be reasoned with. They doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And they absolutely will not stop until they get a 3rd season…” - Kyle Reese
Etienne,
TSCC Resistance
Thread on the official Wiki: http://tinyurl.com/pbyh82
@Alexis We can do to waves of emails: one tonight and another next Friday.
@MattLive Good idea: old plain mail. Fans should send an email tonight AND print it out and send it by mail also. That way, we will attack Skynet on 2 fronts at the same time.
I hate killing trees but to save METAL, I’ll do anything I can!
EDIT: We can do TWO waves of emails: …
@Etienne. Yes. Why I am stressing this now is because email are fast to send. Letters are not. Which means, if they are going to get them before they make their decision, they need to send them before the end of this weekend.
SEND YOUR “SAVE TERMINATOR: THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES” LETTER TO FOX - NOW
Go old school - use a stamp :). And if possible print out a picture of a microchip with the text:
“Is this what John was looking for?”
(Or go for any other creative idea like sending a old cell phone chip. Although send no batteries or anything that can be remotely identified as a bomb. Be smart and funny with your letter - not stupid.)
For more info go to Save The TSCC:
http://www.savethescc.com/letter.html
Help John find Cameron by sending YOUR letter before the weekend. Also tell a friends and family to do the same. It may really be too late to send any letters next week!
If we could take the same time with those letters as we do with our voting we can have a physical impact in FOX mail room. Also it worked saving the show Jericho this way.
Please forward this to other important channels.
Étienne,
are you spreading that message at other places?
I already posted in the ‘Good News…’ thread in the Wiki but I can’t repeat my messages in other interesting threads without cross posting. Someone else could do it though…
Etienne, should we e-mail just askfox@fox.com or maybe an individual exec as well?
@Brian from Canada: I already prepared and adressed my email to Kevin Reilly (Preident of Fox Broadcasting) and CC’ed it to all the people here: http://www.savethescc.com/contact.html
I will also send a copy to M. Reilly by mail.
@innocent: I’ve post a thread on the official Wiki and I’m also promoting the campaign on twitter (esavard)
If you know other places/people, thank you to promote the campaign there also.
Thanks
Chuck vs. Howie Mandel
Finally some good news for our favorite bubble shows. Monday nights without Chuck flopped. This Monday with Deal or No Deal taking in only half its normal ratings on a Chuckless Monday. Likewise Howie’s “Howie Do It” has been terminated and was competition on Friday nights against TSCC (and God only knows how it lasted as long as it did). It means if Terminator returns on Fridays it will have one less established show to deal with.
In related story, the prospects for Dollhouse continue to go down, especially as its ratings tanked as far as 1/4 on Terminatorless Fridays. It seems likely that if stories are true about Terminator vs. Dollhouse, Fox has a lot more momentum going off of the buzz of Terminator’s finale (It has generated 3 times as many viewings on Hulu then the previous episode). On Fox’s stream it is over 50,000 hits compared to 17,000 of the next highest episode. Post season buzz has been good!
Hopefully on May 19th, none of us will be Born to Run.
I’ll see what I can do on other blogs and forums. I may have to hijack a post here and there but, hey, if that is what it takes to stop JD.
Dustin, your analysis is quite tight!
@Dustin
Good reportin, Dustin. It would be a shame if Whedon would not be able to build an audience for his show. I’d like to see a Dollhouse season 2, but T:TSCC comes first. It’s always interesting to see what that guy comes up with. At the same time it seems like Terminator brings plenty of viewer both in the new and old media (Old as in TV).
@ Dustin
thanks for the update.*Crosses fingers*
Come on Terminator!!
@Innocent
good luck on that one.
I wouldnt be able to hijack anything no one around here likes Termiantor or Chuck!
There weird ppl i tell you.
In case you haven’t seen this - BoxOfficeProphets give TSCC some love alongside Terminator Salvation:
http://www.boxofficeprophets.com/column/index.cfm?columnID=11562
Props go to Maximus Prime on the Wiki for finding this review.
@Alexis
I am going to send my e-mail in Tonight to save Terminator.
@Lauren
*SHEEPISHLY* Can I have my gun back please? :^D
Oh yah lol i forgot i had it XD *gives Wolfie her gun back*
When you send your emails tonight let fox know that Summer has topped the 14.5 million vote mark in the favorite female actress poll. That is 10 million votes more than Miley Cyrus who is one of the top grossing celebrities in the business. If fox can’t see what a potential goldmine Summer Glau is, with the proper advertising and exposure, then maybe we should remind them in our email campaign.
Her? I aint THAT pretty! Was that another poke?
Chuck vs. The Imported Hard Cyborg (there is a pun in that title):
My name is Dustin; and here a few things you might like to know . . . .
I know I shouldn’t have done it, but I did. After my report about “Born to Run” . . . I watched it. While about 25 % of made no sense (some of which I will mention), it was well in a word, . . . . Awesome.
First of all they killed of Derek Reese?! No one told me that was going to happen. I watched the preview and about fainted. Second, they brought Derek Reese back?! Are you kidding me, about had a panic attack, and then fainted.
Third, John and Cameron, what a scene that was. It was a pseudo-sex scene. Very well shot. The viewer could take the events any direction they wanted. It was both uncomfortable, unusual, sensual and sexual all in one. I am not sure words can adequately describe the scene.
Fourth. Why is Ellison working for a Terminator Bitch? Why is a T-1000 helping John Connor? Why was Cameron upset by “the offer?” Why was Cromartie a good guy? (You don’t necessarily have to answer my questions, I am just unloading to clear my brain, which was friend like an egg).
Fifth, Cameron got the shit beat out of her! And then, at the final scene she was back! Only this time the dogs were not barking at her like they did in Episode 2. So does that mean she is a new and improved Cameron?
Finally, John met his father! In the future!
While I am half confused and bewildered. It was a great Episode. Many reasons to work hard for a third season.
BTW, why, why, . . . why um, are we shooting the Chuck fans and calling them girls? Girlish screams aside, we have a high aversion to violence.
As in ’salami’? SALUD!
@Dustin
You probably read the last page of a novel first - don’t you? Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn duuuuuuude. You SPOILED the ride! It aint always about the destination, ya know. NOW - you need to fill in the blanks by watching the REST of the episodes!
@ Dustin
i just needed to shoot someone and i didnt want to shoot a TSCC fan.
What can i say im violet.
AND violent!
I think the reference to Chuck vs. The Imported Hard Salami is a good one. In that episode Chuck and Sarah first kiss, and in this episode John and Cameron haver their first ‘real’ moment. At the end of the episodes both for Chuck and John their girl is gone. In the case of Chuck he loses her to the return of Bryce Larken and in the case of John he loses her to . . . well John Henry? I am not sure any of are entirely sure of what Cameron’s fate is.
Only one way to find out. Fight for Terminator.
Lauren, Lauren…
Dustin IS a T:SCC fan! He just needed a bit of reprogramming.
Just like another infiltrator that we know and love he hasn’t forgotten his profound nature, him a Chuck fan, her a Cyborg and he is working hard at conciliating both sides.
Isn’t T:SCC the greatest allegory for life itself? We can find something in it for almost every situation. Dustin! That may be the greatest reason to watch it: add it to your list.
@Etienne. I would like at add that I am prepare to send an e-mail this Friday and next Friday. I have had finals all week (I am in grad school) and have not been able to help a lot. So I need to make up for it.
Sorry for being out of it for the last week. But . . .At least I was there for the E!Online vote.
@Dustin, you managed to have like 15 Chuck references in your 5 paragraphs about Terminator (many of which I am sure most of us missed). That seems uncanny, and a bit strange. Maybe you have an intersect in your brain that allows you see connections between the two shows. Either way keep bringing your Chuck friends to our side. I think we would be proud to have more TSCC fans like you.
@Innocent
… yah i guess so….
I was jk anyways
I didnt shoot Dustin I just shot a random Chuck fan that i didnt like.
All of those things make sense if you watch season 2 episodes Dustin The girl in the future is Alison Young, the human Cameron was designed to mimic.
Lauren:
whatever you do, just don’t damage his chip. We’ve had enough of that for one lifetime! LOL
ONLY A COUPLE MORE DAYS!!!!!!!! I can´t wait more!!! i want a season 3!!!!! Now!!!
keep it up…. keep fighting,,,,,,,,,,,,, !!!
When TF did this turn into a Chuck website. We are now in crunch time and we need to focus as I said before. With all due respect I don’t care about the parallels between Chuck and T:SCC. I am now seeing more Chuck content than T:SCC content.
Get back on Track. I left a post a couple of hours ago stating that the actress who potrays our most popular character has 15 million votes and all of the subsequent posts are about Chuck. To which I say what the Chuck people.
If you like the show we appreciate your help. If you don’t that’s fine too but quit changing the subject. This is the T:SCC blog. If we wanted to talk about Chuck we could go to that site. Please do us the courtesy of staying on topic or move to another site.
@Etienne: Okie, two waves.
I posted the plan on sconnorchronicles.com.ar (Already 4,952 members and growing) and Sarah Connor Society’s Forum. I’ll ask the admins to send an e-mail to all the members to let them know.
@Dustin: Ok, thanks.
Btw, as you are a huge Chuck fan, I assume that you participate in several fansites/forums. So, could you please post a couple of links to prove you’re also supporting our show in Chuck’s fansites as well as you’re promoting yours here?
Thanks in advance.
@Jon: Don’t be sorry.
Anytime you speak to a friend and convince him to watch TSCC you are helping. Every time you post on a blog or leave a comment about the show you are helping. Any effort worth it.
If you can take part of the email rally it is great because it is the last sprint before Judgment Day (May 18th, Fox will announce if TSCC returns or not).
Get ready guys and gals to send those emails tonight!
@Alexis
This is great. Wild-Kat, an admin from the official TSCC Wiki, just confirm that we will post something on the front page for the second wave.
@Snake: I agree, thanks for your words.
________________________
E-mail Addresses (Courtesy of http://www.savethescc.com/contact.html).
FOX and WB:
askfox@fox.com
preston.beckman@fox.com
kevin.reilly@fox.com
Scott.Rowe@Warnerbros.com
info@thehalcyoncompany.com
Bruce.Rosenblum@Warnerbros.com
Peter.Roth@Warnerbros.com
SCI FI Channel:
feedback@scifi.com - let Sci Fi know what a great show this is and indicate your support for them should they pick up the show in the event of a cancellation from FOX.
Let our voices be heard!!
Together we can make the difference.
Spread the word.
Spread your love for TSCC around the globe.
The future is not set.
There’s no fate but what WE make.
@Etienne: That’s great!!
KEEP FIGHTING, RESISTANCE!!!
WE WILL NEVER STOP!!
I am so fucking furious right now.
@innocent
Why???
RCN says:pressure creases
Yes innocent, why?
No bad news or anything, don’t worry.
It is just that between arguing with the TVbtN crowd and the Jessies barging in and giving orders left and right I’ve had it and I had to say it.
Okay, I HAVE to ask(and pardon my ignorance).
What the Hell is a ‘Jessie’? An underminer? Infiltrator? Jessie on the show was just a passion-driven resistance fighter who thought she was doing the ‘right thing’ by John Connor. She was wrong, but I think in hindsight we can see her motivation. Can’t we?
I probably just want to see Stephanie Jacobsen in a swimsuit again. Sorry…
@innocent
Rofl
i wont damage his ship…. much
*chip
She was also someone who was fighting the very Alliance that could save the humanity.
In the same manner, it is essential that we demonstrate to FOX and al that we can increase the number of fans and viewers by recruiting from outside the Resistance. This by itself is worth as much as the polls that we win, the letters and the emails that we send and the good critics that we get.
That is something that the Jessies just don’t get. They barge and act as if everything depended on themselves only, fixating on the work ‘Chuck’ and taking no darn trouble to understand how things have change while they were pretty much AWOL. That level of pretense and disregard, that sectarian attitude is hurting us.
@Innocent: How the heck are we going to build a new audience if we don’t get freaking renewed?
If you think about it for a couple of seconds you would instantly understand the point of those you try to diminish by calling them “Jessies”, that’s a pretty childish attitude and the only thing you get with that kind of behaviour is hurting the resistance by creating a division.
We must stay together more than ever!
Please stop the confrontations between Resistance Fighters.
Until we get the confirmation of the renewal *fingers crossed* we should focus on this fight. Then we can start thinking on every strategic alliances you want.
We are here for the same reason. We are here for Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles.
@Innocent
While I am not sure I understand a Jessie, I think you have said my very sentiments better than I could have. This is my last post and I wish your and Terminator the best. Innocent can attest (or should be able to) that he and I have BOTH been posting in TV By the Numbers in defense of Terminator. At any rate I wont defend myself any further or disrupt your blog.
Hang in their baby.
@Dustin,
Don’t GIVE UP THE FIGHT, Dustin - for this show or any other. Please don’t feel you aren’t welcome here. You are. I have enjoyed your sense of curiosity and sense of humor. It is GOOD to have fresh fans, with open minds. Don’t let the riff-raff spook ya. I’ve got yer back.
@Dustin,
BTW - I don’t think you were the recipient of the ‘Jessie’ comment, not that it might matter at this point.
While I am not sure I understand a Jessie
You will, some time during your viewing on season 2. Can’t spoil it all for you.
I think you have said my very sentiments better than I could have. This is my last post and I wish your and Terminator the best. Innocent can attest (or should be able to)
I attest, I do
that he and I have BOTH been posting in TV By the Numbers in defense of Terminator. At any rate I wont defend myself any further or disrupt your blog.
Don’t worry Dustin: we are a solid bunch if we are anything. I’d totally regret it if you were leaving though: you’ve certainly done more for T:SCC during the last days than any of those loud mouths. I’ll miss our exchanges. BTW, I am watching ep #3 of Chuck.
Did I say ‘Chuck’?
Don’t leave on their account: most here have already accepted you fully. You’ve are great fun and a good man. Them, they didn’t even troubled themselves to actually read the responses that were written while they were nowhere to be seen I’d bet anything.
Don’t worry: I am a tough SOB.
“Hang in their baby” back at you.
@Dustin: As I suspected, this might confirm that you actually don’t have any link for us to prove you were doing anything for supporting our show in Chuck’s forums/fansites.
If there is such link, please, don’t hesitate to post it here and I will apologize. If not, you’re free to go and promote your show somewhere else. Maybe there you’ll find some innocent people that will believe your eloquent “captatio benevolentiae”.
Good luck.
“Them, they didn’t even troubled themselves to actually read the responses that were written while they were nowhere to be seen I’d bet anything.”
Innocent, again, I think that (maybe unintendedly) you are creating antagonisms inside the Resistance, if I wouldn’t know you I would say you were replaced by an infiltrator to divide the Resistance and destroy our common efforts.
I hope you reconsider your attitude.
The Resistance must stay united!!
NO FATE!!
@Innocent: How the heck are we going to build a new audience if we don’t get freaking renewed?
Well, that is exactly what we were doing with success. We have to show signs that we could do it before May 18th. It does work in our favor, it is that many more chances for renewal, it doesn’t take anything out of all our other efforts it adds to them.
If you think about it for a couple of seconds you would instantly understand the point of those you try to diminish by calling them “Jessies”
I know exactly what you mean, but ordering around people who have been fighting, while you were nowhere to be seen, is certainly not the way to endear yourself to them: you could have made your message heard much better with just a bit of considerations for the work of others. For all the past days we have been building something and fighting and voting and posting comments everywhere. I don’t think that we have any lesson to receive from you. You want to fight for the show: fight and stop pretending that you hold the only truth
hurting the resistance by creating a division.
You are being divisive with your total disregard of the work we have been doing and your pretense.
Please stop the confrontations between Resistance Fighters.
Ah come on, can’t you take a punch? If all it takes to undermine you will to fight is for someone to react when you disrespect them…
Until we get the confirmation of the renewal *fingers crossed* we should focus on this fight.
We actually haven’t been doing anything else.
Then we can start thinking on every strategic alliances you want.
Sorry for being able to walk and chew gum at the same time.
We are here for the same reason. We are here for Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles.
Well, it is about time that you realize that much…
Anyway:
It is 5 minutes before 8:00 Eastern so get set for emailing.
Here are the addresses again.
E-mail Addresses (Courtesy of http://www.savethescc.com/contact.html).
FOX and WB:
askfox@fox.com
preston.beckman@fox.com
kevin.reilly@fox.com
Scott.Rowe@Warnerbros.com
info@thehalcyoncompany.com
Bruce.Rosenblum@Warnerbros.com
Peter.Roth@Warnerbros.com
SCI FI Channel:
feedback@scifi.com
If you’re reading this, YOU are The Resistance:
Judgment Day is coming on May 18 and we must fight the final battle for our future.
What’s the plan?
Sending massive e-mails simultaneously in two waves: Tonight AND Friday 15.
We need to flood Fox with a HUGE amount of e-mails supporting our show, plus the links to every poll we have won and we’re winning till now.
This is a call for all the Resistance Fighters around the world to stay united and work together as one.
Our future depends on it.
We need to work together coordinating our efforts to spread the word.
Email Addresses (Courtesy of http://www.savethescc.com/contact.html)
Fox and WB:
askfox@fox.com
preston.beckman@fox.com
kevin.reilly@fox.com
Scott.Rowe@Warnerbros.com
info@thehalcyoncompany.com
Bruce.Rosenblum@Warnerbros.com
Peter.Roth@Warnerbros.com
You can also write to Sci Fi Channel:
feedback@scifi.com - let Sci Fi know what a great show this is and indicate your support for them should they pick up the show in the event of a cancellation from FOX.
Let our voices be heard!!
Together we can make the difference.
Spread the word.
Spread your love for TSCC around the globe.
The future is not set.
There’s no fate but what WE make.
I am not spamming but I am certainly using every email address that I have.
@Innocent: I’m not going on with this debate, it’s so damn pointless.
I’m not ordering people what to do, I’m just trying to help to coordinate our actions.
Seems like your argumentative strategy consist on systematically distort and diminish others opinions, those who don’t share yours. Shame on you for that.
Let’s stop this and focus on what we have in common: our mission to save TSCC.
hy all,
i’have been fighting for 3rd season since show’ has ended!
Fox, WB, we WANT a 3rd season, we are here to scream our voice on the world:
WE WANT TSCC BACK !!!
We Won every poll and terminated every question. You KNOW what we can do for TSCC.
We’ll NEVER STOP !!
FFOOOOXXX AND WWWAARRRNNNNEERRRR BBBRROOOOSSSS
Whatever. Pity that you chased a good man.
Hopefully - he didn’t.
In the worse case scenario he still will be talking about T:SCC and be a well intentioned guy for someone else, just not here with us.
Here is a comment I found from a guy named “Dustin” on TvBTN, earlier today:
My name is Dustin; and here a few things you might like to know . . .
Terminator has an amazing fan base, who are dedicated and are working hard to save their show. While I am a Chuck fan, I am proud to help them out because they have a good show, and I am confident that they wont forget Chuck’s support if we both get off the bubble.
At any rate, renewal is our goal. Did everybody send their e-mails?
It was on the: There’s No Drama At All In Fox’s Renewal Announcements
Yup, that is the person who was to divide us all.
Anyway, I am sure that Alexis was well intentioned but he should have had more confidence in us.
No ill feelings, no time for that.
RCN: Pittsburgh futons
I’m glad that someone is seeing some action: here the lady took off for the weekend to see her mother. I love my mom-in-law so I have for her the gift that never stops giving: my absence.
I wonder what John is giving HIS mom but I bet that it goes off with a bang.
I for one thought Dustin’s contributions were quite amusing, and will be sad to see him go.
Especially his comments after he watched the last episode without seeing most of the lead up. *That* was hilarious. Unfortunately it also illustrates why it will be difficult to attract outside viewers to watch TSCC. The amount of background material one needs to make sense of what is going on is tremendous. So, we *will* need to show Fox that what audience is out there is very dedicated, if we are to have any chance at proving the TV by the numbers guys wrong.
@Alexis
Now jokes apart, I don’t trust him and I don’t care a bolt about whatever has to say, he came here first in a CHUCKIE TROLL MODE: ON (read previous comments) and suddenly with divine intervention converted to RESISTANCE FIGHTER… WTH?! Well that’s simply, plainly crap!.But don’t worry, is just the opinion from a “trust no one” Resistance Soldier in Sarah Connor MAD mode=ON.
Agree with you, he’s a Chuckie infiltrated ninja spy!!!
So again, agree 100% with your thoughts Alexis
Keep fighting for our common objective.
Regards
Why would he post on TVbtN, in favor of T:SCC, and without telling anyone here? Explain his ’strategy’ then.
@innocent
the strategy of Dustin is simply LOL on us (mean you). no offense intended!
I just want to drop by and say “Thank you” to all people that have send an email to Fox, WB or anybody else that may have some weight in the decision to renew TSCC.
The goal should be the same for all of us: Get a 3rd Season.
Please, keep the focus on that.
I’ve contributed to tonight’s e-mailing to Fox and others.
Hows the E-mailing going my fellow Resistance?
Lauren: well, I guess. I tried to find arguments pointing to their self-interest rather than me rehashing the same complaint about ME wanting a 3rd season.
I have a feeling that next week we’ll have a greater number of people sending e-mails.
Good night Lauren
Nite Innocent
@Innocent:
Not so long ago you and Etienne chastised me and another blogger for going off topic repeatedly. You were correct to do so. This is a T:SCC forum and if Dustin cannot fall in and stay on point then he is little more than a distraction at a time when we can il-afford it.
Remember that this is the team that smokes every poll that comes up and has done so repeatedly. You cannot disrupt your core and continue to succeed.
You were right to bring my disruptive comments to the fore and I believe we are right to point it out in this situation. If Dustin is a true convert he won’t let our well intentioned re-direction run him off.
I sent another salvo of emails. I wonder what their inboxes look like.
Continue to support Etienne’s e-mail campaign but don’t forget to send letters to fox during the weekend. This IS the last chance to do that!
SEND YOUR “SAVE TERMINATOR: THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES” LETTER TO FOX - NOW
Go old school - use a stamp :). And if possible print out a picture of a microchip with the text:
“Is this what John was looking for?”
(Or go for any other creative idea like sending a old cell phone chip. Although send no batteries or anything that can be remotely identified as a bomb. Be smart and funny with your letter - not stupid.)
For more info go to Save The TSCC:
http://www.savethescc.com/letter.html
Help John find Cameron by sending YOUR letter before the end weekend. Also tell a friends and family to do the same. It may really be too late to send any letters next week!
If we could take the same time with those letters as we do with our voting we can have a physical impact in FOX’s mail room. Also it worked saving the show Jericho this way.
Please forward this to other important channels.
(This is the last time I will nag about this.)
@Innocent
Who do you think you are? owner of the only truth? Calling “Jessies”(as you like to call people who don’t think like you)?
Saying that you do more to save our beloved show than anyone here? Do you know how many hours in mails, comments, votes, spended everyone here daily? NO, you don’t have idea, and it’s very DISRESPECTFUL, OFFENSIVE and HURTFUL from your part to people on this forum fighting ONE cause SAVE TSCC!!.
So please,stop that attitude prettending to be THE BEST, MOST DEDICATED,FIGHTER EVER on THE RESISTANCE!, that’s just pathetic…seriously.
Hey guys……
Forget about Dustin for a sec
I have an important question for you.
Do you REALLY think, that our ACTIVE fanbase in the US (wich is crucial for the ratings etc.) has increased since the season finale? I mean, If we would get picked up, would we have enough viewers not to worry about a further renewal at the end of season 3?!?!
I think, since we’re the Resistance we should be tactically smart as well.
I mean, i don’t know about Dustin’s motivations and i really don’t give a damn about it, BUT i suggest that making alliance(s) with other shows’ fan-bases would be a very smart way to prevent those problems in the future.
I don’t care if it’s Chuck, Dollhouse (well, i guess at least half the Dollhouse viewers are T:SCC viewers as well) or Fringe or any other show…….
You know, it’s astonishing how the fans (and yeah i count me in as well) supported this show, especially after the season’s finale, BUT this will at max work for ONE renewal!!!
We’ll simply have to think about new ways to keep our show running!
Any other ideas? Technics, maybe YOU have made up something to keep our show alive that you want to share with us, or are you simply against anything?!
Anyways, hang in there baby, i’m proud of our work!
@Enzo
Hello Dustin! nice try…
@ good ol’Snake:
with the greatest respect that I learned to have for you during the past months and in full consideration of the fact that I’ll always have your back in a fight with a real enemy, this question remains: isn’t there a difference between arguing about US politics and working to bring a valuable recruit aboard the T:SCC destroyer?
If you read the responses you’ll see that I was quite rough, to say the very least, when he first appeared and behaved like a Chuck troll. I became, very slowly, convinced that his behavior was due to the lack of mutual comprehension and I, even more slowly, started to believe in an opportunity there that proved real in the end.
There is no way that you can accuse me of relenting and, I hope that you’ll understand, it felt like a fucking slap in the face when, one morning, I woke up to the accusations of weakening our collective effort coming from Étienne, Alexis and you of them all. So I slapped back with the ‘Jessie’ thing which, I strongly feel, parallels what happened with ominous accuracy but that was also just as violent and proved very stupid of my part in the end.
In the morning I have little time to develop an argument before work, but I should have let go… not in my nature to not fight back right away, very unfortunately, so I considered that the Jessies was summing it up as well as I could. My hope was that it would shock you into comprehension of the damage caused by your reaction: a cyborg, even tamed, will always be a cyborg and a Chuck fan will keep his nature just as well. I still believe that Dustin is a good friend and a great asset for T:SCC.
Moreover, anyone for outside the Resistance who was following out exchange is likely definitively put off: this is a net loss.
With no ills against you whatsoever, because I value your brave heart over any alliance lost,
Jean
P.S. This should close the matter: there is not enough time left now.
RCN: enraged war
What else is new?
@ Enzo:
you summarized most of my thoughts and there is not one word of what you said that I can argue against: what an uncanny feeling for me, an absolute first LOL.
I still believe firmly that we are winning a third season and on May 19th then, let’s work at selling the show, which, I am sure, with its increased quality, will go like little old ladies hot cakes.
WTF?! Willste mich jetzt im Ernst verarschen Kerle?!?!
I’m not Dustin!!!!
I’m Enzo from Germany dude…..and i’m posting here since MONTHS!!!!!
You can check it out in previous threads……e.g. talk finale and even WAY BEFORE…….i don’t know him nor where he comes from, and truly, i don’t give a damn!
I mentioned especially YOU, because you previously called ME an ifiltrated,you wine about Innocent being “the owner of the only truth” but at the same time you behave like that as well!
VERY disrespectful, offensive and hurtful dude, since i’m also spending hours and hours, day per day, week per week and month per month to help our show!
I only have the impression, taht YOU don’t have any idea how to help boosting the ratings and therefore attack ANY argument someone else brings in….
To quote you:
So please,stop that attitude prettending to be THE BEST, MOST DEDICATED,FIGHTER EVER on THE RESISTANCE!, that’s just pathetic…seriously.
P.S. or do i also need to translate my comments in german and italian like Alastor did it a week or so ago in hungarian so that anyone believes me?!?!?!
Furthermore check out, that Dustin is here since 2 or 3 weeks…..i’m, as i already wrote, more or less half a year!
@ Innocent
LOL, glad to read that, thanks!
Yeah, you’re right….we must do something to “sell” our show to others…..any ideas?
Lots of ideas Enzo, like creating media to introduce newcomers to the first 31 episodes and lower their initial level of confusion.
But I feel that we have no choice for now but to accept the situation as it has become. Maybe we should keep these discussions for later. I have no more idea that could be applicable to good effect in only 9 days time.
@Enzo
There’s a lot of cunfusion around here sometimes, man !
The only thing that we can do is helping TSCC with mails and letters, and winning polls everywhere !
I really don’t care about “fan-atics” :in italiano, chi se ne frega !
About your considerations on fanbase, i make mine: probably TSCC fan base is growing around the world, where TSCC has been transmitting by now (in italy, on satellite - tv, they’re around Desert Cantos or similar)…
i think that Fox and Wb have received a HUGE support from world-fanbase, also because Terminator is a very strong franchise.
About USA, i think that a lot of wievers went out on friday with their girl/boy friends, then came back home and watched TSCC (as DVR demonstrated on February - March).
Tscc has probably a Us huge fanbase of 4-6 million Wievers. But could be a lot more if Fox will be able to promote the show not in bad day such Friday, not as a “teenaging show” (when Ramblin did her appearance,i’m sorry, show’s rating went down).
I have some feelings….about a Season 3. What can we do else to help TSCC? We are fighting as hell, and i think FOX and WB know that, if they decide for bad, they’re going to disappoint a huge and big slice of sci-fi fans.
FFOOOXXX AAANNNDD WWAARRNNEEERRR BRROOOOSS !!!!!!!!!!!!
Seems like that….so let’s wait and hope the best for our show…..anyways, great work ’till now fols!
IF it gets renewed, than mostly because of the dedication and passion of the Resistance!
Chapeau!
Hehe Ciao Franz!
Si si, hai raggione, chi se ne frega…..
I’ll continue writing in english like you did Franz, so everyone understands
At this point, we really can’t do MUCH more….we won almost every poll we participated…i already wrote 5 mails to WB and 5 to FOX….should be enough..don’t want to spam them LOL.
The main problem is not the global fanbase (by the way…would be really cool if anybody could make a map or something and mark in wich parts of the world we have fans…) but the US fanbase……we have to get live viewers and since i’m not living there, it’s A BIT hard for me to promote the show… guess you have the same problem, too…managgia!
Sure, if it get’s renewed, FOX needs to change the time slot, no doubt about that.
Also promote it in a different way……would be great, if they would promote it in a similar way than Terminator 4 Salvation is being promoted, since (at least the first episodes….or EVEN the whole season?!?!) both, the movie and the series are set in the post-J-Day future!
THAT could be an idea to boost ratings….but as innocent mentioned it….now it’s too soon to talk about to boost ratings…..now, we can only wait and see…(well, writing letters and mail, winning polls, if there will be some around……but truly, we can’t really do MUCH more than we already did…….)
I really don’t have any other idea, like innocent, what we can do (what’s not been done yet) to significantly help us in the remaining 9 days….
P.S…….VERY curious, that there’s a Franz in Italy and an Enzo in Germany…(i guess only Europeans understan that LOL)
@innocent
I’lll remind you:
Not like you.
This internal fight began with the arrival of your friend Dustin. Don’t forget that.
and you started deffending Dustin and attacking us.
So stop pretend to be a VICTIM, you are not.
At least we “Jessies”(AS YOU LIKE TO CALL PEOPLE WHO DONT THINK LIKE YOU) are faithful to our thoughts …
And I dont regret ANYTHING said here (what about you?)
So the term “Jessie” is best applied to you my friend.
And i’m started to thinking… what side are you on?
Hope you can change your unexplained attitude against us RESISTANCE BROTHERS.
Common Technics….stop being a hypocrite dude….you also atacked me, calling me an inflrtated……you never apologized for THAT! So what do you expect from innocent?!?! You should be more respectfull in here and AT LEAST tolerate other’s views and input…….
So quit wine about stuff like that and begin to be more constructive!
WE ALL have the same goal, otherwise, we wouldn’t be here!
So, for what i have seen in here, you were the only one without really new ideas to help TSCC….only the usual blablabla….already read a million times…..i suggest, you should concentrate your energy in new ideas, instead of fighting around….that should be the main reason for all of us in here!
So think about it…….as a matter of fact we’re all on the same side!!!
@Enzo
I’m talking to YOU? Nope, so shut up please
I’m waiting an answer INNOCENT
I don’t want to tell you what to do Enzo since you are doing real well on your own. I just want to caution you that responding to his escalation will this time truly lead us on the path of division.
Tz….that shows what a ridiculous person you are man…….furthermore it isn’t YOU to tell me to shut up dude, calm the hell down!!!!!
You weren’t talking to me? Well, i was talking to YOU though…without an answer from your side….very rude!
Unfortunately persons like you also exist…..i invited you for 4 times after you offended ME what your ideas would be, but since there came nothing, there is nothing left for me to say, that you’re a sad loser, that’s all.
Like innocent, i won’t comment ANYTHING written from you in the future, unless there comes an apology (and i really doubt THAT!)
You are rigth innocent…….that was definitely the last time i wrote him………
@Enzo
Apologize WTH?! If i attacked you was with a reason, YOU called us haters can you read? hellooooo…
BTW you are very active today… what a coincidence…oh and you was supporting the great idea of an alliance with chuckies, another coincidence.
just read the comments again starting from the 1st ok?
“Come on guys machine is the enemy - we’re on the same side.”
So much drama. May 18 is soon here. Start campaigning and stop throwing more fuel to bad fires!
We need to get more letters sent, more e-mails sent, more preorders, more iTunes sales and more participation on Twitter and other media sites reporting the issue of cancellation and the popularity of the show.
So here it goes:
SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES FANS - THINGS TO DO THIS WEEKEND
1) Get people to join #SaveTerminator on Twitter (They want over 1000 followers this weekend).
2) Upload a picture to the i09s Flickr campaign. (We have too few photos it needs to be way more photos - a 100 photos before the weekend would be great.)
2) Get at least three people to write and send letters to FOX before the end of this weekend. (
3) Send more e-mails to FOX.
4) Preorder Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles on Blu-ray & DVD on Amazon.com
5) Buy old episodes Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles on iTunes (Preferably Season 2)
6) Watch old Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles episodes on http://www.fox.com (Preferably Season 2)
THE LETTER CAMPAIGN
Print out a picture of a microchip with the text:
“Is this what John was looking for?”
(Or go for any other creative idea like sending a old cell phone chip. Although send no batteries or anything that can be remotely identified as a bomb. Be smart and funny with your letter - not stupid.)
THE E-MAIL CAMPAIGN
Friday was a great time to send e-mails to flood FOX’s servers but don’t stop sending e-mails during the rest of the weekend.
Remember never be rude. Just explain why you like the show and why you want to see it go on for another season.
WHERE SHOULD I SEND THEM?
For more information on where and how to send letters and e-mails go to:
http://www.savethescc.com
If this show means anything to you, really, NOW is the time to show why.
(Please, forward this to proper channels.)
Enzo= innocent ?
@Matt live
Yes, captain ! We are ready to do everything necessary for our preferred show to survive and get season 3 !!
Well-done catalogue, thanx for your precious and continue work for the resistance Matt! You give us precious informations !
@Others
Stop complaining and do your best with all friends, enemies & co. : WRITE to FOX and WARNER BROS. After May 18th you can loose all the time you want, not now !!!
@Enzo
eh eh eh…yeah but my complete name is Francesco…Franz is only a friendly surname !But it’s the official one around the web and between friends!
FFFOOOOOXXXX ANNNDDD WWAARRNNEERR BROOOSSSSS !
Oh man…and i REALLY didn’t wanna answer you dude……..
Yeah, i’m active today, because i worked all week long and ha to study law in the evenings, so there wasn’t much time left to do more….just voting for the best on screen couple poll for Summer and Thomas!
So today is saturday and FINALLY i have some time to be more active, you mind?!
As a matter of fact i visit this blog daily and i recognized that there was this guy Dustin…and because i don’t give a shit about postings and comments at polls etc. and i was too tired to read ALL the previous posts in here i didn’t know who started with this beef…..and i really didn’t care because MY POINT is, that Dustin himself, or to be more precise, his idea of joining forces (like the Resistance and the machines LOL) is just a great idea in my opinion.
Now to the “hater-thing”…..it was simply because you apparently gave Dustin a very hard time in here…that’s all dude….nothing to wine about (plus, i wrote something like “stop hating” so i didn’t call you explicitely haters!!!)
So yeah, i think you shouldapologize man……you have no right in the world to attack me, since i didn’t explicitely attacked you!
Furthermore, i don’t support an alliance with the chuckies….i would support ANY alliance (especially with the fan-bases of ANY STRUGGLING show, because they are more likely to keep their eventual promise to support us as well!)
Chuck is one of the series that comes in to my mind and was a simple IDEA…..so if you’re pissed, that i have an other opinion as you, you’d better leave, because blogs and forums aren’t made for you then……if not, than start respecting your fellow Resistance brothers and sisters and think about something to help us achieve our common goal!
LOL….you’ll see, that in the end it’s Enzo=Technics……..quit being paranoid dude…..and grow up finally!
@ Matt
…….you’re so right….unfortunately the letter thing won’t work…..i think i takes more than 9 days from Europe to the US…..for the rest, i’ll try to do my best.
Already preordered the season 2 blu ray…….FOD unfortunately isn’t an option, since my hotspot shield (US proxy access) doesn’t work properly…..but i’ll work on this one….
@ Franz
Ah, i see…..i thought you were from Bolzano or something…..LOL
Where are you from?
I’m originally from Calabria.
I do hope we get a third season. Matt is always very good at keeping our focus, thanks for that Matt.
However, if we get our precious third season - we are going to be in for one hell of a dog fight. On May 19, we are going to need to find ways to increase viewership or ways to appeal to WB to put our show on Cable. Either way the battle has only started for Terminator we have to stay focused.
I would also like to say that when I look back over Dustin’s recent posts, most of them only included Chuck in the title. It was the some of us (myself included) who expanded on his ideas in this forum. So I take blame for the division, I should have stayed more focused. So I want to apologize for my part in it. Either way we have to move on.
#SaveTerminator has now over 1000 followers. Great work all! Still though 1500 followers before the end of the weekend would be really nice. Keep networking!
Just mailed a severed RealDoll head with blue LEDs in the eyes.
Wow, it’s like we have a mini Terminator drama in here…I’m in for anything that helps promote the show. Even if it means ‘alliance’ with other series like Chuck. But I don’t think that at this stage it’s gonna do much. We should focus on getting our voices heard by Fox. Just hope that both shows could be saved AND THEN we can talk on how the ‘alliance’ can help both shows.
Btw, my sister just watched the finale of TSCC and immediately called to ask me for the next episode. Told her that it was the finale and she was pretty devastated when she heard that 3rd season might not happen…So, Fox, please give us a good news on May 18th! It’ll be a nice birthday present for her(her birthday is a week later).
Fujii@Malaysia
Should I get a twitter account Matt? What all do you need for it?
@Enzo
Well bud, all the week that you had more important things to do i was voting like any other fellow here was voting spreading the word to friends sending e-mails, posting comments in forums, defending our show from trolls, working every day since season 2 finished, not throwing “ideas”. Im a loyal fan making anything i could for our beloved show.But i dont go bashing anyone that don’t think like me.
And like it or not ALL this crap started with a Chuck fan. Well done there Dustin!
“Don’t worry Dustin: we are a solid bunch if we are anything. I’d totally regret it if you were leaving though: you’ve certainly done more for T:SCC during the last days than any of those loud mouths.”
“I am surprised to discover that there are so many Jessies here to freak out if some of the Resistance speak of an Alliance with the dissenters of our adversary in polls. LOL”
Ciao Jessies. LOL :=P
It is just that between arguing with the TVbtN crowd and the Jessies barging in and giving orders left and right I’ve had it and I had to say it.
That is something that the Jessies just don’t get. They barge and act as if everything depended on themselves only, fixating on the work ‘Chuck’ and taking no darn trouble to understand how things have change while they were pretty much AWOL. That level of pretense and disregard, that sectarian attitude is hurting us.
Those quotes where a few from innocent for me and others fans of our Resistance
And last, IDEAS are for commanders, i’m just a soldier on the battlefield following orders.
And for your and others wonderfull idea of an alliance with Chuckies finished absolutely flawless…a division between us (props to Dustin on that one well done dude!)
@Knuttypoo
Wow, crazy. Would love to see the comment from the Fox employee who screens that package - Serial killer - or just a Terminator fan?
Fifth, Cameron got the shit beat out of her! And then, at the final scene she was back! Only this time the dogs were not barking at her like they did in Episode 2. So does that mean she is a new and improved Cameron?
@Dustin
If you watch all the episodes you find the answers to questions like that. Cameron was an infiltrator originally built to replace a real resistance fighter, Allison Young. Allison was the girl in the last scene of the finale. Even the stand alone episodes of this series don’t really stand alone, they all work toward character and story development. Allison From Palmdale is the episode that informs us of Cameron’s origin.
@Brian from Canada
http://www.twitter.com
Register for an account. Login. Searh for SaveTerminator - click on the correct profile page in the search list. When you are on the profile page, lock for the button “Follow” - and you are done.
You can also look for the T:TSCC team: @Josh_Friedman, writer Ashley (@Ashman01) and Hadley (@hadleyk)
When you feel you are more of an advance twitter user - look for Adobe Air applications like Twhirl - makes the whole Twitter experience feel like an Instant messaging program.
Listen Technics……i didn’t want to argue with you or anybody else in here.
For your work, as well as for the work of ANYONE in here i want to say THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart, because i never cared about a show before like that and i’m glad to see it has fans like YOU!
My point is, that we need to focus our energies in finding new ways to help our show, not to fight against each other.
I can see that those posts you quotet are really not nice and they migt have hurt you.
Hehe, don’t want to distract you too much, but despite your believe it would be me, i really don’t know what innocent and Dustin were/are thinking. I don’t know nothing about the motivation of anyone in here as well……my goal is, that for me, as a fan, i truly sucks not knowing wether we get a third season or not….and IF, i don’t wanna sit here the same time the next year discussing again about those things (boosting ratings etc)…i’m thinking about how to prevent that.
IF i was thinking that i like the idea of joining forces, it’s nothing against you or anyone else….it’s just an idea……so i would like to say the following to EVERYONE:
We’re ALL on the same side, so NO disrespect! Calling anyone Jessie in here is simply not acceptable innocent….no matter what happened before.
No division should be made in here, but a not-too-emotional discussion about the future of OUR show and every opinion should be fairly discussed without blaming or offending anyone!
And for everybody to understand: I’m not against anybody in here, nor am i on anyone’s side….i’m like you a proud member of the Resistance and we should help each other instead of fighting!
Furthermore i also voted like mad this week and the weeks before…..have written several mails today and trying to do everything possible someone from Europe can do to support a show that is simply not on his continent and i can do nothing more than buying blu-rays and DVD’s dude….how about that one……so we shouldn’t argue about the fact who did more, we actually shouldn’t argue about ANYTHING!
hey guys!! everyone here, calm down!!
we are not just the resistance……..WE ALL ARE THE RESISTANCE………. we have to be together on this…… we have to wait for the answer from fox……
please everyone take it easy and if anyone in here doesn´t like this show,, you dont have to be here dude…….
If you want to vote more than once per day in the voote poll, you need to not only delete your voote cookie, you need to also disconnect from the internet and reconnect to get a new IP address.
http://www.voote.com/jsp/WAppServerPage.jsp?TransID=RVOTES00&VoteID=7097
Enzo, that was not your point in previous comments made by you.And yes that words hurts me and others fellows on our RESISTANCE.
Anyway, no sense arguing with a person who forgets what he said.
Regards and keep fighting for our common objective.
“Anyway, no sense arguing with a person who forgets what he said.”
You see, you’re doing it again!
I never did man, come on.
Now you’ll have to explain me, what, in your eyes, as my point in my previous posts….
I got attacked, so i was A LITTLE mad at you, nothing more.
My point is, that we have to find new solutions, and by joining forces with an other struggling show’s fanbase is possibly one of it….that’s all….the main thought of ALL of my posts man.
Anyways, keep fighting for our cause, too…..you’re doing a great job.
I’m out for today…….Hang in there baby!
boyz n girlz, if you love Summer Glau, please check in here http://welovesummer.net. there is life beyond Terminator.
Wow…
Good morning, everyone? Methinks we need to take a few - DEEP - BREATHS.
There. That’s better. Can’t we ALL just get along?
For the record:polls do not equal VIEWERS. I believe we have the media’s attention now. I also believe we have FOX’s attention. What we NEED - is a sustainable THIRD SEASON AUDIENCE.
Say what you will about Dustin. At the VERY least - he was a TRUE fan of the show he loves. Infiltrator? Why would he bother? His goals are the same as ours. Winning the renewal battle isn’t winning the war. Recruiting NEW fans IS. I think we might learn a thing or two about ‘recruiting’ from what Dustin did. Have any of you joined another fanbased blog, and try to recruit anyone? No? Why not? Because you’ll get treated the way PEOPLE IN HERE treated him. What he attempted to do posed ZERO threat to us and our goals. Different shows, just like different ideas can, and MUST be tolerated lest we alienate ourselves from new fans as well as from our own.
RCN says: ruining ai
@Wolfie
Dustin a TRUE fan?
@Technics
Yes. Of his own show. Chuck.
What are all of you, politicians who cannot work together because of slight variations in your ideals of working towards the same goal? If so you are of the same lot contributing to the troubles in the world.
Sad.
Think to yourselves, you bickering people. Regardless of Dustin’s intentions, you are more than delighting those who want our show to be canceled, who want The Resistance to be broken. You are succeeding for them, because you are broken and divided now. With all of this that I have been seeing since the appearance of Dustin, you have become but mere pawns traitorously weakening your own side.
Now to whom who I might of reached, or offended, I merely ask…
Stop. Please.
Regardless of whether you were right or wrong from the beginning is of no use.
Don’t speak your reasons for being right, for for someone being wrong. Just put it down, and move on. At least be silent about it until after the 18th. Forgive each other.
I’m not attacking nor supporting Dustin. But if his coming here can cause so much trouble among us, whether he truly wanted to be of help or not, imagine what 100 will do to us.
Please…stop. You are only doing the work of others who want our show to go down.
@Enzo
Now you’ll have to explain me, what, in your eyes, as my point in my previous posts….
I got attacked, so i was A LITTLE mad at you, nothing more.
If you want to understand read from this post to down
@Innocent
Who do you think you are? owner of the only truth? Calling “Jessies”(as you like to call people who don’t think like you)?
Saying that you do more to save our beloved show than anyone here? Do you know how many hours in mails, comments, votes, spended everyone here daily? NO, you don’t have idea, and it’s very DISRESPECTFUL, OFFENSIVE and HURTFUL from your part to people on this forum fighting ONE cause SAVE TSCC!!.
So please,stop that attitude prettending to be THE BEST, MOST DEDICATED,FIGHTER EVER on THE RESISTANCE!, that’s just pathetic…seriously.
“there’s a dustin in the chimney, can I kill it?”
jk
everyone has a right to their opinion, free speach, unless that person is a troll and who’s only purpose is to stir up angst in a forum. in that case:
“yes you can kill it”
Since I am apparently the cause of all the trouble I am out of here.
Over and out.
Awwwwwwwwww COME ON guys! Take a breather, but don’t BAIL.
@innocent
Great.. the easy way, now I know what kind of people you are…weak
OMG. Some people are just plain crazy…
Well, i think it’s pretty NORMAL for everybody to have lives OUTSIDE of the show… I Love TSCC, but I do have other stuff to do, too, such as College, studying, and such.
So don’t go attacking those who can’t get online every single day or vote for hours in a roll.
Also, some might live on different time-zones.
Hadley…
Might be a good idea to close this particular part of the blog down. Sort of “a slap upside the head” for all of us including myself.
If nothing else it will take away the conflict between us fans from the heart of the news regarding our show.
Thank you.
Get it? BAIL=BALE? Ha-ha! I made a funny!
RCN is an AI I tellya!
RCN says: Sundry feuds
http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2009/05/nielsen-backlog-finally-starts-to-clear-but-ratings-are-still-delayed.html
Holy crap!!!! I step out of the loop for a few days, come back and find it looks like the place has come unglued. Carrots and Apples to all!!!!!
How does Cameron like her pancakes?? BATTERED!!!!! Yeah it’s lame, but so have all the other jokes I could find so I got brave. So there it is, right out there, its so freaking big, you saw it??? Right?
TOXIC!! That’s all I can say about what’s going on here. I rarely post, but always vote on various websites. Never missed an episode of TSCC, even though I’m one of those DVR people. Learned a lot from this blog, such as where to go to vote, send letters, send comments to various sites. I’m doing my small part to save the show. This use to feel like we were one strong community. I’m now feeling like this is just unraveling, as my anxiety gets stronger as we approach May 18th. This is the worst possible timing for all of these arguments. If FOX would bother to read this blog, I wonder how they would perceive all of these arguments??
There’s just a few shit disturbers and a few people who get offended too easily. I pay them no mind.
Mel’s quite right ! Arguing won’t take us anywhere, it will just divide the fans. And that’s not the purpose of our resistance, right ?
Stay together, Resistance!
wow wow why are u fighting guys? Were the Resistance fighting wont solve anything
@Brian
I’ll take my shit shaken - not stirred, thank you. ;^D
Please, just let’s stop fighting and disrespecting each other.
We have a common goal, we must stay together in order to get a third season. This is a sine-qua-non condition for every future alliance or whatever idea we might develop after May 18, but FIRST we have to win this and get a third season for TSCC.
PLEASE, don’t waste your time and energies, and PLEASE, let our egos aside and let’s FOCUS on OUR mission.
Together as one, and only TOGETHER, we can make the difference.
Please, spread the word and keep fighting for the show we love.
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Let’s prepare for the second wave. Let’s spread the word:
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If you’re reading this, YOU are The Resistance:
Judgment Day is coming on May 18 and we must fight the final battle for our future.
What’s the plan?
Sending massive e-mails simultaneously in two waves: First wave on Friday 8 and second wave on Friday 15.
We need to flood Fox with a HUGE amount of e-mails supporting our show, plus the links to every poll we have won and we’re winning till now.
This is a call for all the Resistance Fighters around the world to stay united and work together as one.
Our future depends on it.
We need to work together coordinating our efforts to spread the word.
Email Addresses (Courtesy of http://www.savethescc.com/contact.html)
Fox and WB:
askfox@fox.com
preston.beckman@fox.com
kevin.reilly@fox.com
Scott.Rowe@Warnerbros.com
info@thehalcyoncompany.com
Bruce.Rosenblum@Warnerbros.com
Peter.Roth@Warnerbros.com
You can also write to Sci Fi Channel:
feedback@scifi.com - let Sci Fi know what a great show this is and indicate your support for them should they pick up the show in the event of a cancellation from FOX.
Let our voices be heard!!
Together we can make the difference.
Spread the word.
Spread your love for TSCC around the globe.
The future is not set.
There’s no fate but what WE make.
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Hang in there, baby!
Alexis
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Wow… I missed something!
Just finish to catch up all the post since I posted “Thanks” to everybody who had participated in the fist wave of email to FOX.
Prenez une grande respiration tout le monde! Take a deep breath (and T-888’s, just pretend you do)!
Please be polite and respectful. This is not the time for piss contest (or farting contest). I even read my name mix into that s…t!
Man, I just want one thing:
I WANT MY SHOW BACK FOR A 3rd SEASON!
Everything else is just distracting and a waste of time. Instead of complaining here we should be thinking and advertising TSCC. As I said before: Any effort to save TSCC worth something.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-tv-grid-sp,0,381932.special?vote46440781=1
Forgetting something are we?
Continue to dominate. There will be more polls ahead.
Heh heh, people that argue in blogs are funny. Thanks for the laugh.
@ Sam
ppl arguing in the blog is NOT funny!!
We have one goal and its for TSCC to have another great season!
So ppl plz stop fighting.
We’re on place 68 of 100 on Amazon for Season 2 DVD pre-order. It’s proves there is a certain demand which is good. However how good it is can be questioned. If you haven’t pre-ordered your copy and you want to have T:TSCC on Blu-ray or DVD - pre-order it now.
@Robert
Your right that was rly lame.
Oh and Btw Dustin didnt do anything he’s a TSCC fan now too, just like the rest of us!
So just relax.
Lets say we stop attacking each other and we just take deep breaths and chill out.
They attack your terminator for no reason. It is talk like this that had me believing Terminator fans were idiots. I come here, I find out otherwise. Help me. FLOOD THEM with the truth. Leave your message of solidarity and that we have no reason not to stand together and that biased media of TSCC will not go unnoticed:
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/05/09/fifteen-days-of-chuck-day-six/18377/comment-page-7#comment-85121
I just want your help, and I couldn’t not say something.
Looks like Nielsen is in big trouble and the networks are not happy with them…yeah!!!
“Nielsen backlog finally starts to clear — but ratings are still delayed”
http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2009/05/nielsen-backlog-finally-starts-to-clear-but-ratings-are-still-delayed.html
I loved this quote: “Another executive fumed to Variety that “It makes you really wonder, though, about the validity of anything they put out.”
You just NOW figured that out!!! Oh boy!!! We’ve been saying it FOREVER!!!
Try online, DVR, DVD ec…not that hard!!
But here is this:
“The system failure “couldn’t have come at a worse time,” NBC research boss Alan Wurtzel told The New York Times. “This comes at a particularly tough time of year because all of us are making evaluations about bubble shows and time periods and so forth.”
Come on TSCC S3!!!
I’d like to make this point again and i would appreciate some feedback on the argument. I included this in my letter but if you agree then more people should help drive this point home.
Summer Glau is currently at 16.3 million votes on the favorite female celebrity poll with 76%. Miley Cyrus is second with 23% and 4.8 million votes. It is estimated that Miley Cyrus will be worth over $1 Billion by the time she turns 21. If that is her cut then think of how much money she has made for others. Now consider the massive support that Summer Glau has over her. Fox needs to take notice that they are sitting on a gold mine if they handle Miss Glau properly. I don’t think they understand how popular she is and how that can translate to dollars for them. As we all know Fox has to look at the $’s because that is their business. I think it would be effective to make it known that millions of people would buy Summer Glau Terminator products over Hannah Montana any day and that will = $’s for Fox.
If you agree with this train of thought please include some aspect of it in your letters or let me know why this tactic may be flawed.
@Dustin
Let’s not all go visit TBTN. Let’s not reward them with more hits to the site. It’s best if we just stay away and let the blowhards over there talk among themselves.
Thanks for posting on our behalf at TVBTN, Dustin. Didja watch anymore episodes yet? :^D
Well, I needs to be ye farewell. I’m going home tomorrow and at home there is no internet. Worse than dying to some having no internet, but you can get used to it.
Anyway, not that I’m a major respected fan or a member of The Resistance, but unfortunately I won’t be able to continue the fight with you guys. Thats why I hope that you can resolve your differences peacefully and continue to plow on in support for our show.
But I will be finding out on the same day just as you guys will if not before what happens with our beloved show. TSCC S3 for the win!
Farewell.
TVBTN can kiss my endoskeleton. I won’t waste my time on them.
Thanks for worrying so much for us, Dustin, you’re so kind. Now I assume we all will start talking about Chuck again that you came back. That’s great.
Maybe if TSCC gets cancelled I’ll turn into a Chuck fan after all. I think that’s the plan, huh?
Anyway, I won’t do anything that hurts our image like turning against that stupid blog, I prefer constructive and positive actions like voting on the polls, posting positive comments about my show everywhere I can, spreading the word and writing to Fox, WB and Sci Fi.
Thank you for your noble intentions, though.
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@Snake: I made a similar point in my letter.
@Snake: Here is an extract of what I wrote about Summer’s popularity.
“[...]Furthermore, this show knew well how to build its own fascinating fictional universe with engaging characters like Summer Glau’s Cameron. This beautiful and gifted actress’ huge popularity is undeniable and it reflects on the incredible number of votes she’s receiving on this poll [...]“
Thanks for the info Alexis, I will continue to accentuate the point in future correspondence with Fox.
@Snake: way to go, highlighting the only issue that really means anything to Fox (a business, when push comes to shove), and that is “show me the money.”
@everyone else: It seems to me we have lots of intelligent people here who understand modern Internet technology. Warner Bros. produces T:SCC, correct? Warner Bros. is a business, just like Fox is a business. Fox needs to be concerned about viewer numbers, because viewer numbers translate into advertising dollars which translates into profit. Warner Bros. does not need to be concerned with viewer numbers; they are concerned with network interest, because that translates into covered production cost plus margin, which translates into profit.
My point is that to produce a season of T:SCC, the only thing we really need to supply is production cost + margin to Warner Bros. Does anybody have idea what that cost would be? Divide it up among the estimated number of fans and sell subscriptions via pay-pal, either one time fixed cost payment or multiple per-month subscription (ala the MMORPG subscription model). Distribute the episodes direct to internet on Hulu or a new Warner. Bros. website dedicated to the purpose. Looking at Radio sites like Last-FM one can only conclude “Indy is in!”
Of course there are legal and organizational issues involved, but I don’t see why those can’t be handled by Warner. Bros. themselves (I’m sure WB has legal and promotion/PR departments).
If the number of subscriptions sold over a certain period of time does not cover the cost then hey, they people have spoken and give those people who subscribed a second season DVD collection instead.
This idea is kind of like the Direct-to-DVD approach currently being used by the Stargate SG1 franchise, but preserves the episodic TV feel instead of promoting an epic feature film feel.
I know we’re concentrating on trying to get a renewal, and that’s all for the best, but if May 19th rolls around and Fox decides to go with the rating numbers, then the time will be short to consider alternatives as the cast and production crew will then probably scatter to the four winds.
I think this kind of approach might have been able to save Firefly; it was strong enough to get the Serenity movie produced. The Serenity production was marginally profitable when the DVD revenue was included. It would be a shame to waste the organizational potential of the T:SCC fanbase by not thinking of possible alternatives should FOX make the logical, network based decision that the TV by the numbers guys like to hit us over the head with.
Think about it.
If you love/like/admire Summer Glau, please check in here: http://welovesummer.net . You need only a photo and a few seconds. Thank you.
Hy all,
1 week to Judgement day ! Keep mailing everyone and everywhere,
we are the Resistance !!
I’m so happy that T4 is approaching,but here i have to wait till June 6th to watch it !
I guess that if TSalvation had come out before 18may, it would have helped TSCC in its struggle for renewing…with a lot (i hope) of money in WB and Fox wallets , they could have decided with more tranquillity and less fooling questions about ratings & co.
In this situation, we can only count about Season 1 and Season 2 feedback on Fox website,on ratings, on Amazon, on Fans …and about ourselves !!!
NO FATE, but what we make.
FFFOOOOXXX AND WWAARRNNEEERR BROOOSSS !!!!
@hlampert
This is essentially how they managed to get new Futurama after Fox cancelled it, of course its a lot harder to do that we when you have real life actors involved, especially if there is any delay in production - At the moment by far and away the best chance is to get a season 3 hopefully off the back of T4.
If this show is not renrewed, i may have to take my own own life; thats how serious i am about it.
Would pay any ammout to see just a few more hours of this most awesome show
@Jay
Maybe I am taking you too seriously, but as a counselor, if you really feel that way, you may want to consider some help. Again, if I am taking you incorrectly, please forgive me, but I cannot let that go without suggesting some help. If you need resources in your area, please let me know.
Hahahaha awesome… pulla a buddhist monk and burn yourself outside of Fox studios if they dont renew the show. Lol.
@ Jon
Exactly my words……..Jay, don’t take it too seriously man……..it’s a show, nothing more.
@Alexis “TVBTN can kiss my endoskeleton. I won’t waste my time on them.”
Just for curiosity, I read some Chuckies posts on TVBTN… Damn, by reading those stupid comments bashing TSCC, I just wish one thing: That Chuck get canceled and TSCC renewed. It will teach Chucky fan boys to shut up!
I should have listen to Alexis recommendation and don’t waste my time reading those posts… I’m really pissed off now.
Sorry for those among us who are fans of both shows. I just don’t like that TSCC get continually kick in the (metal) balls by Chuck fans and some pro-Chucky journalist (ie E!Online and al).
@Etienne: My friend, please don’t follow their game. Just ingnore all that crap.
Only stupid losers who are desperately seeking attention, like the ones who wrote that article, have the urge to denigrate the others in order to feel better with their miserable and pathetic lives. I feel sorry for such losers.
Maybe they just needed our attention to feed their huge egos, let’s not please them, poor souls…
As regards some haters over there, maybe they feel envy because they will never have such a wonderful and dedicated fanbase like ours.
So, don’t worry, man. Let it go and you’ll feel better.
Viva la Resistance!!
@Ettiene
I no longer visit TVBTN because they simply bash TSCC to court controversy and generate visits to their site. I recommend that all TSCC fans stay off that site for good, so that they don’t get the benefit of your visits. This should reduce their google rankings, etc..
We should leverage our collective power for sites that are supportive of TSCC like IO9.com and aintitcool.com
I’ve sent several emails, multi voted on all the polls, asked friends and family to email and vote. I also preordered season 2 and posted pics in the Flickr group. I’ll continue to send emails until J Day.
@the people involved in drama.
In case your head is stuck somewhere and you haven’t noticed, The Resistance has been using this blog forum to spread the word about how to support TSCC. I don’t like all the bullshit that has been posted here. It’s a distraction from our purpose. Keep your eye on the ball, people. Stop cluttering this forum with useless crap.
dear “resistance”, don’t resist, show yourself here: http://welovesummer.net
-7 to JDAY
KEEP FIGHTIN’, RESISTANCE !!
Everywhere, everytime.
God, how much i’m missing this show…SIGH
FFFOOOOXXX and WWAAARRNNNEEERRR BRRROOOOSSSS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@SarahCamFan Yes.
Please, people let’s keep a good spirit and focus on the (no) fate of the show. Let’s talk about saving the show.
It may not be too late to get that final letter sent. Also continue with the e-mails, and pushing people to preorder on Amazon and buying episodes on iTunes. Also start following #SaveTerminator on Twitter if you haven’t done that already and upload a photo to i09s “Sarah made me do it”-Terminator-campaign on Flickr.
For more info what to do go to:
http://www.savethescc.com
Hadley just added this clip on Youtube. It is a behind the scene of the HK crash scene.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHU-emd87qg
Movie reviewer making some kind remarks about our show and giving Summer her props for Cameron. Towards the top of the page and again near the bottom.
And not to beat it into the ground but let’s all try to stay positive and keep our eye on the prize. This Forum should be about the task at hand not for other fluff.
http://kara.allthingsd.com/tag/terminator-salvation/
we need season #3!!!!!
@Logan, SarahCamFan and MattLive: Agreed.
___________________________________________________________
Let’s prepare for the second wave. Let’s spread the word:
—————————————————————————————————
If you’re reading this, YOU are The Resistance:
Judgment Day is coming on May 18 and we must fight the final battle for our future.
What’s the plan?
Sending massive e-mails simultaneously in two waves: First wave on Friday 8 and second wave on Friday 15.
We need to flood Fox with a HUGE amount of e-mails supporting our show, plus the links to every poll we have won and we’re winning till now.
This is a call for all the Resistance Fighters around the world to stay united and work together as one.
Our future depends on it.
We need to work together coordinating our efforts to spread the word.
Email Addresses (Courtesy of http://www.savethescc.com/contact.html)
Fox and WB:
askfox@fox.com
preston.beckman@fox.com
kevin.reilly@fox.com
Scott.Rowe@Warnerbros.com
info@thehalcyoncompany.com
Bruce.Rosenblum@Warnerbros.com
Peter.Roth@Warnerbros.com
You can also write to Sci Fi Channel:
feedback@scifi.com - let Sci Fi know what a great show this is and indicate your support for them should they pick up the show in the event of a cancellation from FOX.
Let our voices be heard!!
Together we can make the difference.
Spread the word.
Spread your love for TSCC around the globe.
The future is not set.
There’s no fate but what WE make.
__________________________________________________________
Hang in there, baby!
I totally Agree with you Alexis.
Instead of fighting we should be coming together to save Terminator!!
COME ON GUYS!!!! WE are the Resistane! we CAN do this!!!! We need a season 3! We CAN NOT be stop!
We have strength in numbers!
ON YOUR FEET SOLDIERS!!!
Let FOX know that are voices WILL be heard!!
Okay, Summer has topped 18 million votes on the favorite female celeb poll. You can’t argue with that kind of popularity. She will easily top 20 Million by Friday so ram that point home to Fox. They have the hottest female star in Hollywood in their pocket right now. Only a fool would let that go.
Good point, Snake. That means FOX has a 50-50 chance of getting it right.
Good point. Hopefully we will skew those odds in our favor.
Crazy numbers on Miss Glau on TV.com - only that says that people are willing to see her - it does not say directly that they want to see her in T:TSCC unfortunately. But it is still a very good indication that many people are still willing to tune in to see the show (or DVR, use iTunes or watch on-demand. If Miss Glau had the power to get all the show’s current viewers watch the show live she would be a goldmine.)
Anyways just picked up this one from one of the T:TSCC fans. Final week instructions. . Please digg it - and follow the instructions.
http://digg.com/d1qvkP
ok, let’s make a point…
i’have been sending mail since born to Run aired on tv…
Today i’ve already sent 5 mails to 6 email addresses of Fox and Wb…
Every day i’ve been sitting here, waitin for news about renewal…
Every day i read on internet about our victorious campaign on every polls, about show, actors, actresses;
there’s a huge struggle, good ordering and preordering on amazon;
few complainers (mainlyon TVBTN…strange, isn’t it ?!?) , a lot of person askin for more and more.
I saw T4 trailers, i found them very impressive, i hope history will be as good as special effects (my god, that Terminator’s smile is creepy really ! Amazing !)
I think we are doing as our best, i think that Fox and WB should calculate what a gold mine is this franchising.
No other show can substitute Terminator as mythology or ever. Will they understand this? Once you start, you can’t stop…not now !!
FFFOOOOXXX AND WAAAARRNNNEEERRR BROOOSSSS
WE ARE THE RESISTANCE !!!
@Franz
I think entertainment journalist need to frame stories with certain TV shows - a bit probably partially because of personal preferences in certain shows, some because they get paid per article/posting, some just because conflict sells (like Chuck vs Terminator), some because previous situations shows the likelihood for the show’s cancellation.
Meanwhile some journalist praise the show and frames it as the underdog and would gladly see it renewed because of that.
Eliza Dushku tweeted about on going negotiations with FOX for a second season of Dollhouse… Hope they will contact Josh and co. also!
In the meantime, keep those emails going to WB and FOX!
Terminator had better numbers and a more dedicated fan base. If Fox is in an either or choice, picking Dollhouse would be a mistake (unless Dollhouse costs significantly less to produce).
Warner Brothers better offer FOX a deal they can’t refuse.
Join the fun!
http://terminatorwiki.fox.com/thread/2821418/UNITE!+CELEBRATE!+RESIST!+5.15.2009+Spread+the+word!
Same link Wolfie already posted but in Tiny format
http://tinyurl.com/p6l4pv
http://www.peta.org.uk/feat/FeatureSexiestVegetarianCelebrity.asp
Vote for Thomas Dekker as the Sexiest Vegetarian Celebrity!
n.n
He might just as ruttin’ well be.
I don’t even wanna dignify PETA with a vote. I don’t know who is a bigger idiot, people who hunt animals for sport (that’s just sadistic to me), or people who equate animals with humans like PETA does.
I think I will give up soon. I can’t wait until may 18. Ok, I know It’s just a show, but I really like…
@Wolfie
It’s only my own guess but if “negotiation” really means negotiation and not a negotiation for ending Miss Dushku’s contract with Fox, it feels like our little show should stand a chance. Fingers crossed for the former.
Whedon’s Dollhouse are still way off more (in ratings and seasonal story arc, the concept is still interesting) and demands to reel in more viewers in its second season (if ratings evaluation methods haven’t changed). While T;TSCC have had lower numbers on its Friday time slot, is it possible that we may see two high concept shows with low numbers being renewed at the same time - on a channel like FOX?
Perhaps Whedon was right about Fox’s intention. And perhaps hell just froze over.
Whoops! Sorry Etienne!
@Matt
I dunno, Matt. I doubt FOX will renew them BOTH. But - you never know. Maybe a recession is a really bad time to cancel what works, and try something new that might not. “If it aint broke - don’t fix it” comes to mind. These ‘fresh’ pilots of theirs might really BLOW. Let us HOPE so.
VLR!
@Tim
Its okay have have those feelings. Its okay to mourn T:TSCC or feel like you are losing a part of yourself.
While I am not suggesting any of us give up, I would like to give some friendly advice on how to cope with loss. Likely for many of you Terminator has become a habit. You may check in on this or other blogs, frequently, etc. The best way to cope with your loss (if it happens) is to try and replace some of your ‘Terminator’ behaviors with other positive behaviors, perhaps take a small walk in place of watching an episode of Terminator. This is just an example.
Another suggestion is to let any negative frequent feelings or thoughts to arise and realize that they will inevitably reduce both in severity and duration. Over time compulsive thoughts will go away, it is a matter of allowing those experiences to take place and giving them the necessary space to expressed.
I hope no one takes my words out of context. I am not suggesting any of you stop, give up, etc. However, when I see some of the comments in this room I am compelled to make some suggestions for health. They are only suggestions and are not clinical, nor do they take the place of Medical or Mental health professionals.
Hang in there baby.
I would suggest replacing your addiction to TSCC with an addiction to internet porn. J.K. folks!
Honestly i will watch any show with summer in it, but i will always love tscc
@Wolfie
Better if you can have both: Terminator AND pr0n!
http://www.euphoria-magazine.com/humor/42-humor/297-terminator-kama-sutra
@Etienne
That’s classic!
Sarah Connor Society is supporting the e-mail campaign. They posted a couple of great fan vids too. Thanks to the admins for their support.
http://sarahconnorsociety.net/2009/05/11/season-3-tscc-more-places-to-send-in-your-emails-and-letters/#respond
Next Friday. Let our voices be heard.
Together we are making the difference.
Viva la Resistance!!
@Wolfie and Etienne: Count me in.
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Also thanks to FrenchfanofTSCC from http://terminatorchronicles.ning.com/ for sending an e-mail to all the registered members for them to know about the campaign.
@Wolfie and Etienne: I mean, with this innitiative: http://terminatorwiki.fox.com/thread/2821418/UNITE Nothing to do with your last comments. Don’t get me wrong.
initiative*
Our fellow Resistance Fighters from http://www.tscc.cz/ have an Edit Button to modify their post, so why don’t we have one?
KEEP FIGHTING!
Anybody have the $ to buy season 1 or pre-order season 2 this Friday, the 15th. Maybe we could all go to Amazon.com and order 1 or both seasons (though I’m sure we already all have copies) this Friday and see how high up the charts we can push TSCC sales? Anyone down with this?
@Alexis: LOL. Of course you were not talking about our last comments.
Thanks but you should thank also Wild-Kat (a TerminatorWiki admin) to have put the UNITE initiative in place, my hat to him.
If we win next Monday, we can all cry out loud: “VICTORY!!!”. And then work hard to get new viewers during the summer hiatus (no pun intended) so JD never come back… or not before the 10th season.
On your feet soldiers, the final battle is waging!
Hey folks,
I don’t know if you all have seen this kick-ass fantrailer by JWEggers, but if you haven’t, prepare to be blown away:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAJJxqeNMjE
Seriously kills all the official ads ever made for the show…
I think we should all e-mail FOX & co. the link. Because that’s just damn near tear-inducing…
@Wolfie I never really hoped so much that pilot season would not be able to create any financial sustainable shows.
But truth be told not many of the story premises I have read have sounded that good either so, yes, let’s hope they keep the stuff we feel really works and that we really want to see more of.
@Rosa N
That video reminds me why Fox Marketing should’ve gone the classic cinematic route with their failed sci fi-friday strategy. Grindhouse theme is not Terminator nor Dollhouse.
@ rosa n & mattlive
oh finally i can see a trailer, that it’s what i’ve been always expected from eveyone, Fox, Wb or other, to promote TSCC !
This trailer got rythm , envolvement, it’s powerful ! FOX promoting are inspired to soft-power but…i don’t think it’s a good idea !
voting, voting,voting…monday i would like to be here screaming for victory !!
FFFOOOXXX AND WAAARNEEERRR BROOOOSS !!!
@Rosa N:
God, what a trailer! I have goose bumps while listening it!
Resistance fighters, you really should send the link to this vid in your email to FOX. Man, FOX, hire this guy!!!
Yep - that trailer is the best I’ve seen.
@Matt
I hear ya brother, I hear ya.
@Matt
I totally agree! If anyone ever had qualms about watching the show at any point, seeing that trailer would evaporate them. Grindhouse theme… *swears*
@Etienne
Yeah, I wish it were even a possibility that he’d be hired, but the guy seems to live in Germany. Maybe he can collect royalties or something, because, WOW.
Damn, that was a great trailer Fox should hire that guy right now.
Oh, I’ve already seen that trailer a couple of weeks ago, someone posted it on SCS’s forum. Yeah, it’s so damn good!! I agree, this guy’s got the correct vision of the show. Fox’s promos should definitely be that way.
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@Etienne: True. So, thanks to WildKat from the Wiki. Chapeau.
Today I’ll work on spreading the word about the UNITE initiative. Yesterday I posted the link here: http://www.sconnorchronicles.com.ar and asked the admins to send an e-mail to all the registered members (already 4,988 members!!) for both: a reminder of the e-mail campaign on friday and the UNITE initiative.
Together we’re making the difference.
Saw that one of Fox pilots have been approved - Human Target with the guy from Fringe. It apparently tested well. Of course it sounds like a very repetitive show. And a blend of concepts we’ve already seen. Guess it’s all about how good the scripts and execution is. Oh, and Mr McG is behind this one if you didn’t know.
HUMAN TARGET
Team: Jon Steinberg, McG
Based on the DC Comics title, the show centers on Christopher Chance, a mysterious freelancer who offers a very unique form of security for hire — he assumes the identities of people in life-threatening danger, becoming the “human target” on behalf of his clients.
I wonder how many shows have to be approved before T:TSCC has to go? Nice irony if this is the one sinking T:TSCC with Mc “Terminator: Salvation” G behind it and all. Hopefully there are some more timeslots to fill.
I’m sure I don’t have to say it but tell all of your friends not to watch the pilots.
Or at least to DVR them and wait to watch them until the show is on hiatus! Unless they CANCEL us…
Hey Folks
i was wondering why i have so many Comments at my Youtube Account today
Now i found out its because of all you people here watching my TSCC Vid
THX very much for watching and i’m glad you all like it
@ Rosa N thx for posting the Link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAJJxqeNMjE
Congrats JWE!! And keep up the great work.
@JWE
You should make it bigger (covering the whole youtube-windows) and with a text in the beginning: “How a T:TSCC marketing trailer should look and feel.” and send it too Fox’s marketing department people who handles the T:TSCC account.
You managed to create that classic pacing in editing found normally in movie trailers. Doubt they would have the material to create stuff like that every week with limited video material (and limited commercial time for that matter) - but damn if something similar at least could be done with a Season 3 Comicon trailer and a Fox show commercial trailer (without revealing too much) fans would go ballistic.
@JWE
really great work ! you catch show’s spirit, and use right sounds with right images to create suspence and a emotional climax…
I’ve never seen anything similar about TSCC…i found FOX’s campaign really “soft”.
It’s true, this show is not only, and not mainly, action-action-action. But this is a fundamental part of TSCC; if you ignore it, you are ignoring Terminator’s real essence!
@ Mattlive
I read about a possible 2nd season for Dollhouse…and i’m looking for some new sabout pilots. But my question is: is it so difficult to renew TSCC?
They have a envolving history, huge fans, famous franchising, good selling rate & co.
. Why all this silence and mistery about it ?!?
Is possible that 18th may, from total silence, Fox will rise up and tell “yes, TSCC goes on” without any anticipation ?
And about McG new’s stuff…ok, man, i’m waitin you on T4…then i will judge !
FFFOOOOXXX AND WWAAARRRNNNEERRR BRROOOOSSSS
this is my dream(fanvid)….. its what all we want…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM-uN35jIic
i can wait for the news¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡ SEASON 3….!!!
http://scifiwire.com/2009/05/news-briefs-dollhouse-not.php#more
More info about Dollhouse negotiations at Fox. Seems like they are trying to make Dollhouse work out financially. A shame to lose Whedon before he get to work his magic on Dollhouse season 2.
I wonder if similar discussions will happen during the week for T:TSCC or if it already have been going on. Will the eventually planned “more stuff in the future” story arc risk making the show too expensive to run for a season 3 and work as a disadvantage for the shows chances for renewal? I just hope they won’t be forced to cut too many post-judgment day corners to keep the show on the air.
We’ll know on monday.
mmh, it’s always sad when a show is stopped after only1 season. Especially those show like Dollohouse, that is trying to find a way between “network”’s esigence to have a commercial sci-fi history, and whedon’s projects.
About Tscc, i don’t think that S3 places should be so expensive…tunnel, garage, “underwold”, with garbage, slums….most difficult things seems to be open spaces, with war and terminators…but in T4 they show us as a piece of edesert can become a perfect location for a scene.
I hope monday to face you resistance fighters and can say : “We won, brothers !”
FFOOOOXXX AND WWAARRNNNEERRR BROOOSSS
Matt stop rooting for Dullhouse to succeed they are the enemy.
If Dollhouse is renewed, TSCC won’t be. I’m sorry, but that’s how it is.
we’re making a lot of supposition…if one is renewed, other is killed ecc…
i really don’t know, i look at TSCC and i don’t find really any particular difficulties
for them to renew the show for a third season.
But i’m not Fox.
Dollhouse…is a new franchising, it’s a different situation. A different show, with different times and themes.
Hopin for monday. No enemies, fate is on our shoulder.
Send mail, and waitin for massive initiative on May 15th.
FFFOOOXXX and WWAARRNNNEEERRR BROOOSSS
Bring TSCC back for Season three. The fans have spoken!!!
Oh…and change the Friday timeslot please
. Give it the chance that it deserves.
@MattLive: If WB gets good revenues from Salvation, then I think they will not care that much about the costs since TSCC will certainly be a formidable way of keeping the Terminator franchise spinning around people’s minds.
So, in such case, I think WB wouldn’t mind that the production costs were higher than the amount of money they get from Fox, because we shouldn’t forget that they also get revenues by selling the show to dozens of channels around the world… They’ll never lose money, at least they’ll earn a bit less but they know it’ll pay off at long term. Strategically, TSCC is a great marketing campaign for McG’s trilogy.
Unfortunately, Salvation’s premiere will be after Fox’s announcement.
Hopefully, they’ve already thought about it and convinced Fox. 
Dollhouse can suck my endo. I WANT MY TSCC BACK!!!!!!
Sorry guys. Just trying to get the whole Fox negotiation thing in perspective. If I had to choose I still want. T:TSCC renewed. I’m just saying I’m curious where Whedon takes Dollhouse even though it hasn’t really grown on me that much so far.
I still hope both can be saved but it feels like T:TSCC should have a stronger chance coming back than Dollhouse (if the cost of making it hasn’t become an issue). Which means if the are in the talks of renewing Dollhouse, it may signal that T:TSCC may also be renewed. But like Franz says it’s all mere speculation from our part. We don’t know really until monday.
Alexis. Good point. WB don’t have a fina saying on renewal, but as you said it would be amazing if they would find a way to produce it cheaper for the cost benefit of using it as a stretched out cross promotion for their own Terminator movie production.
Matt, you may find mentioning anything besides Terminator in this room receives backlash. Not a threat, just an observation from some of our former members whose loyalty were challenged and chased off. It doesn’t take a psychologist to see that.
I never watched Dollhouse, but I was very busy (at the time). Many people seemed to like it and it seemed to do better when Terminator was the lead-in. However, I think Terminator and Dollhouse fans could organize more easily if both shows are renewed to support each others shows (then say that other show that I wont mention for fear of the mob). Also they would both be on the same network, which ultimately puts them into potential conflict.
As fans of Terminator we will have to network; Dollhouse may be a good start. We should keep upbeat about Dollhouse, we may just need their sci-fi fanship to get us a fourth season.
if anything this season has taught me just how chaotic hollywood is which really gets me poed when i see people calling themselves “experts” and saying that they know for sure what will happen next season and what not. and nielsen? if terminator doesn’t get renewed i don’t think i’ll look for another show to watch you know? find some other hobby to get involved in.
maybe bird watching…
I love you Summer!
@MattLive: Exactly. That would be great. I hope they use their influences to convince Fox, so they give us, at least, a third season.
@Nick85, bird watching rocks. Get yourself a NICE pair of binoculars 7x-8x magnification, much beyond that gets tricky, (or quaky). Depending on what part of the country you are in get either Roger Tory Peterson’s guide (in the east) or for most everywhere else (sibley’s). Pick good mixed habitats: water along grasslands bordering on woods. GO watching early in the morning or in the latter part of the day (birds tend not to be out in the heat of the day) the nice part about this is that you can bird watch AND catch season 3!
Yeah, Summer rocks too!
I love watching birds. I love watching them as Summer crushes them with her hands. Other than that, it’s pretty boring.
it’s a pleasure for me
to be the number 800 !!
what a community…i think we are the most active fanbase on the net by now for a show !
Only a thing: why does the cast make no appearance together since the end of 2nd season to call for an initiative for 3rd season ? I think it would have been very appreciable ! i heard that Chuck’s cast made something similar…or am i wrong?
Oh, i don’t forget that everyone, Lena, Summer, BAG & co. talk and thank separately in different occasions fanbase and show’s creators,claiming for a 3rd season, but it would have been nice, also in front of this silence from cable network.
I guess they’re crossing their finger right now as we do :).
They’re great and i want more and more !!
FFFOOOXXX and WWAARRNNNEERRR BROOOSSSS
@ Jon, for the record: I wasn’t chased off, I stopped posting as the only solution to bring back some semblance of unity here.
Thursday. I saw “Lie to me” has be renewed for second season. The lineup for fall 2009 is stacking up.
@Innocent
Good to hear or . . . read!
There’s another poll on AOL (follow the link below) if you haven’t already found it. Go mental folks
http://television.aol.com/insidetv/2009/04/21/which-bubble-show-should-be-saved/
Hi there, my new TSCC Notebook-Skin arrived today.
Here are the Results, hope you like it !!
http://img-a3.pe.imagevz.net/forum1/70/32/504d7cf18d296ceae31bc1ebb639/1-80b46eba669ade0e.jpg
TSCC 4Ever!
hmm makes a good pic for “tscc made me do it”…. ^^
@onkel feix
can’t see anything at that link…sorry
ok let`s try again :
http://img2.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imag0001z.jpg
MattLive: Are you serious, they picked up that piece of crap show?!! I watched Lie to Me one time and that was enough. The guy is a piss poor House wanna be. That show is absolute crap and I can’t believe that they got a go ahead while T:SCC struggles. The world makes no sense.
Walking Metal Cacti . . . what other show has that?!
Procedural dramas with a quirky main character and some innovative story device (like “CSI cam”, medical detective story or human lie detectiors) are a successfull reciepe for show creators. But so are crappy non scripted shows like song and dance contests.
Let’s just hope Fox dare to have some serialized, high concept and less procedural drama this fall. And let’s just hope that is our show.
@Franz:
There was a public apearance of Thomas and Summer at a Fox Charity Event, couple of days ago. The annoucer says: “New and RETURNING shows” Curiously, no one from DollHouse cast can be seen…
http://tinyurl.com/ouanz7
@Onkel Feix
Wow, really nice. You should defenitevily upload your picture for the “TSCC made me do it”
@Etienne
re: Fox Fall Casino Charity Event
That was LAST year (notice Thomas still has the long hair!)
@onkel
Wow, now i can see ! It’s really cool !
No news again by fox…hopin well !!
KEEP MAILING EVERYONE !!!!
FFOOXXX AND WWAARRNNEEERRR BROOOSSSS !!!
@David
You are right, sorry for the misinformation. I was mistaken by the date the video was put on Youtube.
I want so bad to have some good news about TSCC! It’s what happens…
Some more speculations? Speculate on this then!
Ashley Miller (co-producer and writer) twitted earlier today:
cinebo @ashman01 - are you doing ok dude? Haven’t heard much from you in a while?
ashman01@cinebo crazy week. Will tweet all soon.
@Etienne
Crazy week for both Friedman’s and Whedon’s camp I guess.
They’ll spill the news as soon as they are allowed. I wonder though if frequent twittering from the T:TSCC staff during the weekend will be taken as a positive sign that some of them may be unusual happy
?
correction: UNUSUALLY happy
(I type too fast as usual.
)
If……WHEN we get renewed I’m going to celebrate like crazy! Side thought…..you know what I love about summer time……you see and hear the word summer everywhere which is a constant reminder to think about Summer Glau which makes me extremely happy.
@MattLive
Josh Friedman has been silent for a while on Twitter… Then, can we drink champagne already if he start to twit on the week-end?
On the terminatorwiki told that if “Past Life” really picked up, there are no rooms for TSCC in the fall.
I hope they did mistake in their analysis.
Hey some tweet more than others. Some of them tweet about the show almost all the time some of them very little so don’t take my word if certain people seem awfully “tweety” this weekend.
The twittering doesn’t have to be as clear like that time Mr Greg “Grunny” Grunberg on Heroes “cursed” his show of being cancelled at one point. But maybe the weekend twittering can tell, if not in frequency, perhaps small message can be read between the lines - or like something very small - just a tweet saying “yay”?
(Damn that’s a lot of twitter, tweets and twittering in these sentences…)
ok, don’t forget about the rest,
these are sparks of light in deep dark, but we have a job to do :
FLOOODING FOX and WB with our emails tomorrow, saturday and Sunday !!!
Come on, fighters, JDay is approaching, but, in this time, in our reality , we can face it …
FFOOOXXX AND WAAAARRNNNEERRR BRRROOOSSSSS !!!!
@MattLive: Voted and made one of my kilometric comments.
Thanks for posting the link.
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Current results:
‘Terminator’ 69% [14,320 votes]
‘Dollhouse’ 12% [2,461 votes]
http://television.aol.com/insidetv/2009/04/21/which-bubble-show-should-be-saved/
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Devastating numbers. That’s definitely another poll to be included in our e-mails tomorrow.
Poll: terminated
@Mike77
If it is true, it really sucks if there is no other timeslot for the show is left. “Past life” - sounds like another less serialized drama may have been picked up to attract a bigger audience like they’ve tried doing with “Lie to me”.
Must be this show you’re talking about:
Untitled David Hudgins reincarnation
Team: David Hudgins, Lou Pitt , MJ Rose
Past-life investigators use the concept of reincarnation to solve mysteries of their clients’ previous lives in order to resolve their problems in the present.
Going for the new age demo much?
Again the jury is out on this one but it doesn’t sound very interesting. Especially if it will replace T:TSCC.
@Mike77
correction: Past life” - sounds like another less serialized drama MAY BE PICKED up to attract a bigger audience like they’ve tried doing with “Lie to me”.
Fingers crossed it was a major dud in the demo test. I really wonder how accurate those tests really are when they compare it to the success of shows over time. Some really great pilots have given us some pretty crappy shows, and some not so good pilots have given us some really good shows (Remember Buffy?)
@Alexis
Thanks. The numbers were like 63% and around 9000 people voting when I found the poll. So it’s been out there with plenty of fans already voting.
There’s definitely an extremely strong online support for this show.
@MattLive
Read here post 353 and more : http://terminatorwiki.fox.com/thread/2800658/Analysis+of+FOX+2009-2010+schedule%3A+Where+could+TSCC+fit%3F?offset=340&maxResults=20
mmh wait wait…
There are 4 shows not renewed yet on the list.
Dollhouse, Tscc, Lie to Me, Bones. Right ? (correct me)
How many slots have already been taken by other shows?
But I still hope. No fate
Lie to me has been renewed. Bones will be renewed if the news are not out yet of its renewal.
@Mike77
I just read the post. Damn it does not look good at all.
Well you know what that means - fetal position, anyone? (Kiddin
)
Anyways, it seems like Dollhouse had it’s renewal negotiation today according to this source.
http://twitter.com/miraclelaurie/status/1795423566
Something tells me they may have dropped that show if the timeslot issue presented on the forum is true.
Even if the slots are taken up, isn’t it possible a number of them never really take off? what if some turn out like NBC’s Kings? they’ll be done once the remaining ones are burnt off, but its gone last I heard. if that happens to one of Fox’s pilots wouldn’t that open up slots for renewing shows?
what if terminator doesn’t return for the fall, but instead the winter?
Still, things are lot looking good at all. I’m dreading Monday when my fears will probably become true.
*sigh*
Negativity is like cancer, it spreads. Focus on the objective until we get a diffinitive answer.
Hey guys, don’t stop voting in this poll. We’ve been loosing some of our percent. Winning, even if we still are doing so well, isn’t a lock yet. Let’s keep those numbers high! Vote!
http://television.aol.com/insidetv/2009/04/21/which-bubble-show-should-be-saved/
@ Snake: You absolutely right ! There is nothing said by Fox, so nothing is gone …
@ Snake
I know you’re right - it’s not for fetal position just yet (I’m kidding again.
). Until it’s official we can’t really say how it will look. But it really really does not look good right now
Perhaps they have some mid season solution we haven’t seen yet. The put lost after mid season to make it easier to follow that heavily serialized drama. So keep the hope up.
Some say we may hear leaks already tomorrow regarding Fox’s shows for 2009/2010.
For anyone who isn’t determined to depress there is this thread which is looking only for good signs, with people in it who are actually finding them.
http://terminatorwiki.fox.com/thread/2699699/TSCC+-+Any+Good+news+for+Season+3+Thread+post+here+!!?offset=580&maxResults=20
Things aren’t as dark as some ‘analysis’ based on a house card of rumors make some of you believe that they are.
Its not like I’m looking for reasons to be discouraged, just looking at the facts, which is that there doesn’t seem to be any room. Too many pilots have been picked up.
I never really give analysts much credit anyway. their no more informed than us most of the time.
I’ve been following the TSCC Wiki forum. Looks like room for TSCC just ran out today as Past Life was picked up. That now includes Human Target, Glee, Sons of Tucson, and Cleveland so far. Another show called Brothers is likely to be added.
I don’t think TSCC’s partner show Dollhouse will have any chance either, despite being a Fox studio production. Dollhouse may have fell even below TSCC’s ratings at the end.
Fox will probably have the schedule stamped out tomorrow, then sit on the news until the event on Monday. Would it leak out?
I just wanted to say I am sorry. I read about Terminator. No other fan base fought harder or deserved it more. I know, Chuck lost every poll to a great group of fans. Definitely not-awesome.
@Dustin:
Thanks for all your efforts to bring in new viewers among Chuck fans.
We are not done yet. TSCC fans must gather tomorrow at TerminatorWiki, watch Born to Run on Fox on Demand, continue to send email, continue to call Fox voice mail.
Remember, every body said that TSCC will not get a second season… We got 13 episodes. Then, they said that we will not get the back 9… And we got a full season 2!
We must continue to fight, we are the Resistance. Even if FOX don’t pick-up TSCC for a 3rd season, we should continue to hammer Halcyon and Warner Bros:
WE WANT A 3RD SEASON!!!
Thomas Dekker post a message on Youtube: “Thanks you fans”
SPREAD THIS ONE!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7B2IYR-HCo
Step it up, we’re losing ground on this one, there was a post on whedonesque about it.
http://television.aol.com/insidetv/2009/04/21/which-bubble-show-should-be-saved/
Here’s another cool link:
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118003571.html?categoryid=13&cs=1&nid=2562
Feel the BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Welcome back Dustin.
OK, for making a funeral first you need a corpse and TSCC is still alive (at least until next monday).
ON YOUR FEET, RESISTANCE FIGHTERS!!!!
We have no time for mourning, we have a job to do.
Let’s fight the final battle, together, as one.
The Resistance must stay united more than ever.
Focus on the mission. Don’t get discouraged.
TSCC might be cancelled, but until that day, it’s gonna be one hell of a dogfight.
I don’t want to give anyone false hope but i’m going to relay a conversation I had with a trusted friend today.
I live near Albuquerque where the pilot for T:SCC was shot. I was told that 94 ROCK, the local rock station in ABQ, announced a casting call for T:SCC two weeks ago. I have not confirmed this. But, the person who told me he heard it is someone I do trust not to B.S. me. I hope it is true and if anyone can confirm any aspect of this story we would all greatly appreciate it.
Keep the faith and vote, write, and continue to support the effort until J-Day.
@Etienne: Thanks for the link, man.
And thanks to Thomas, of course.
By the way, Summer is only at 19.4 million votes on the favorite female celeb poll. We want to break 20 M by COB tomorrow. Get in there and vote for her, she’s only 13 million votes ahead of 2nd place (LOL). I still think this is a great bargaining chip for T:SCC.
@ Alexis You’re absolutely right. We’re right there with you!! Hoo YaHH!!
Here’s the link if you want to get in on the fun: http://www.tv.com/favorite-tv-stars/female/index.html
@Snake: Man, I so hope that’s true.
@Snake: In my previous comment, I was referring to your comment at 10:26 pm. Now, regarding tv.com, tomorrow I’ll be voting non-stop until I see 20 Million votes!!
I’m with you 100%, I think Summer’s huge popularity is something Fox and WB shouldn’t waste. We definitely need to make a point of that in our e-mails tomorrow!
Here we go! Keep voting, Resistance!!
http://www.tv.com/favorite-tv-stars/female/index.html
And let’s not forget to kick some butt here too: http://television.aol.com/insidetv/2009/04/21/which-bubble-show-should-be-saved/
I’m with you too Alexis, we’ll hit the site you referenced as well. FULL COURT PRESS UNTiL THE END!!!!!!
@Alexis
Voted on AOL and on Summer (again). Looks like some Dolls ran over to the AOL poll in the last minute. Btw 20 million votes for Miss Glau on the TV.com poll? That’s crazy.
@Etienne
Looks like Dekker really hasn’t heard anything yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7B2IYR-HCo
Well time to resume fetal position (Kidding as usual) until some really good news comes up. From a dramatic perspective maybe Fox will reveal some genius solution no one has not figured out. That would’ve been a great twist. Not to mention a better ending of this third act of fans trying to save the show.
Thanx Thomas for your connection from Nightmare’s set !
We really appreciate your words, and we want to tell you that…
WE WON’T LEAVE WITHOUT FIGHTING !!
There are so many rumors and news that it’s impossible to understand something !
maybe there are good news from Albuquerque, bad news from new pilots…what a rollercoaster.
I’m sure about ONE thing we can and want to do
HAVE A 3RD SEASON !!!! HAVE JOHN, CAMERON, SARAH, REESE & co. WITH US !
FFFOOOOXXX AND WAARRNNNEEERRR BROOSSSSSS !!!!!!!!
p.s. Oh, if Monday will happen what i hope it’s gonna to happen, i will run on my feet on the highway near my city !!
@MattLive May be you can adopt a foetal position a-la liquid metal terminator (like the one on the Jimmy Carter in her little box)!
What if… What if FOX and WB wait until the last moment (next Monday) to announce that TSCC is pick-up so everyone talks about it on the Net… Remember that Salvation opens next week and that TSCC/Terminator fans are a crazy bunch (in a good way)! I can’t think of a better promotion: We will be like crazy and go see the movie 2 to 3 times in a row to get our Terminator fix. What a good ending. Every body wins… except maybe Dollhouse…
Hey, may be it is a too X-File like scenario…. you know global conspiracy… liquid metal terminators running the show everywhere… including FOX!
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Does anyone know when we will know the result of this thing?
I mean, when we will know for sure the show will go on
May 18th. I live in Germany. So i will wake up Monday morning and the first thing i am going to do is turn on the pc and watch what happend. please FOX
was it not the 15th?
Mat 18th we’ll find out, It was nice to see Dekker getting involved.
we’ve won almost every online poll with huge numbers.
hope Fox does the right thing and renews the series.
That Dekker video is quite good. What a goofball.
Today is the day. The final battle has begun.
E-mails. Lots of them. Tonight.
Fox and WB:
askfox@fox.com
preston.beckman@fox.com
kevin.reilly@fox.com
Scott.Rowe@Warnerbros.com
info@thehalcyoncompany.com
Bruce.Rosenblum@Warnerbros.com
Peter.Roth@Warnerbros.com
You can also write to Sci Fi Channel:
feedback@scifi.com
Resistance fighters of the world, UNITE!
Tonight. Here:
http://terminatorwiki.fox.com
Hang in there, baby!
Waaaait. Thomas Dekker watches Family Guy? Man, I LOVE HIM. n.n
Downloading the video as my computer *cannot* work on youtube…
I hope they don’t release the news too late on the 18th…
No, those were the Simpsons. Bummer. Blame my faulty computer for that.
OMG, I LOVE HIM, I LOVE HIM, I LOVE HIM!
Because he’s so cute, and he’s shirtless, and he doesn’t know how to record, and he makes mistakes, and he starts off the video by saying ‘it’s recording, it’s recording!’, and then he also yells ‘fuck off’ and smiles ever-so-sexy, even though he smokes, and he then calls them FOX and asks they give TSCC a 3rd season, and he says ‘3 days people. 3 days until we know our fate’-or something of the sort..
AND BECAUSE HE WANTS TO KEEP BEING ‘THAT JOHN CONNOR DUDE’!
Whew, I’m hyped up now. n.n
LOL….Thomas’ vid is too hilarious!
20!
To be more specific:
SUMMER GLAU
76%
20017018 votes!!!!
No power in the ‘verse can stop her.
[And remember that, also, she can kill you with her brain...]
We love you, Summer!!!
Everyone see this new poll on zap2it ?
http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2009/04/poll-dollhouse-vs-sarah-connor-chronicles-.html
I for one voted for both.
Voted and made a comment. Thanks for the link, Ray!
Voted both. both are amazing shows. I miss Dollhouse already and it just finished.
and it goes without saying I want terminator to return.
@Alexis
20 million votes. Huge numbers.
I hope someone has presented those numbers to some decision maker at the network. While it may signal that Miss Glau could get many offers elsewhere, it may also be indicative that some if not many of those votes comes from fans of this show.
On a side note. Reaper on CW (another buffy-esque high concept show) may be saved by syndication. So yes networks sometimes do work in mysterious (well, in not so predictive) ways.
Interesting news about Dollhouse. Renewal because of high DVR numbers reports i09 using this source:
http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/05/dollhouse-second-season.html
The issue for Dollhouse is the cost for the show though according to that source.
The question is if T:SCC is more or less expensive than Dollhouse and if T:SCC will get more leeway in the costs department because of better ratings.
Matt TSCC beat out Dollhouse in DVR ratings EVERY WEEK.
“@Alexis
20 million votes. Huge numbers.
I hope someone has presented those numbers to some decision maker at the network. While it may signal that Miss Glau could get many offers elsewhere, it may also be indicative that some if not many of those votes comes from fans of this show.”
Freaking big numbers, huh?
Totally agree, MattLive. Also I really hope those numbers were presented to some desicion maker at Fox’s headquarters. Huge numbers. I’m so glad for our beloved Summer.
@Everyone: Wiki’s chatroom is gathering a lot of people. Some fellow Resistance Fighters there thinks we’re gonna make Meebo collapse today - LOL
Will you join us?
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Today is the day. The final battle has begun.
E-mails. Lots of them. Tonight.
Fox and WB:
askfox@fox.com
preston.beckman@fox.com
kevin.reilly@fox.com
Scott.Rowe@Warnerbros.com
info@thehalcyoncompany.com
Bruce.Rosenblum@Warnerbros.com
Peter.Roth@Warnerbros.com
You can also write to Sci Fi Channel:
feedback@scifi.com
Resistance fighters of the world, UNITE!
Tonight. Here:
http://terminatorwiki.fox.com
Hang in there, baby!
it seems TSCC ’s got all the right chance to be renewed…
it has good DVR numbers, huge fan-base, amazing actresses/actors….
I hope all this silence by Mr.Friedman means something positive for Monday, maybe with the presentation of Salvation…
If they pick up Dollhouse, i don’t understand what’s wrong with TSCC…yes, more expensive, more impegnative but…ehi, this is Terminator’s month and this is T4 year ! Marketing should not be so difficult !!
Waiting and mailing, waiting and mailing….
FFFOOOXXXX and WAARRNNNEERRRR BRROOOSSSS !!!!
Oops! I meant to say: “decision makers”. Writing fast, I inverted the letters. Such a horrible mistake.
It’s time!! Everyone here, please!!! http://terminatorwiki.fox.com/
There’s a map where you can see yourself.
People say the issue is cost, but Josh (or was it Hadley, I cant remember) has said that this is not an expensive show. its about average. and really I don’t see why they couldn’t cut costs more if necessary.
Im glad that Dollhouse seems to be getting renewed, but I’ll be mad if terminator does not givin his higher DVR numbers.
@Kyle - I agree, SCC should be renewed, especially if Dollhouse is already seeming to be. I would think that FOX would have made a decision about renewing SCC first since it’s more established than Dollhouse instead of the other way around. I’ll be livid if Dollhouse is renewed and not SCC! Not after all this fight the fans have put up!
Off to write more emails to FOX…:)
we can join the RESISTANCE campaing in wikifox…… their have a meeting in the home page in honor of TSCC…..all the fans are in there …… go…..http://terminatorwiki.fox.com/
sign up and sign in to the official wiki of fox web site to being up the numbers
http://terminatorwiki.fox.com/
according to e online fox has picked up dollhouse for a season 2
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/index.html
not sure were that leaves us
I’m surprised no one has thought of this already…
A bit cr@ppy, but I’m no wiz at photo-editing:
http://i308.photobucket.com/albums/kk355/lubi-chan/sconnormadehimdoit.jpg
Sarah Connor made Thomas Dekker call FOX and ask for a 3rd season n.n
Shit happened if TSCC canceled while Dollhouse renewed.
Wow we have 888 comments. LOL reminds me of a T-888.
Come on TSCC S3!!!
I need my Cameron and Jameron goodness. And I miss talking to you snake!!!
Fingers crossed for good news.
If T/SCC gets cancelled, I really don’t care if I see Salvation or not. I’ll just watch it on AMC five years from now and save a few bucks.
@ JWE
WOW great TSCC promo!!! Very well done. Loved the music. That’s the kind of promo’s I want to see for a S3. And we BETTER have a S3.
@ Lucila LOL great pic!!! Good one!
I kind of wish the show would move to cable…even if I don’t have cable…minor detail to work around.
Just need a S3 with Cameron and Jameron in it.
It’s interesting how easily the alleged Dollhouse renewal leaked but nothing is said about T:SCC Is that a good or bad sign?
@MattLive
Either way the fact we still haven’t any news for T:TSCC is a very very strange. But it’s better than if we heard about cancel.
Ok guyz,
let’s try to make some hypothesis…
We start from this: a massive mobilitation on the web by fans,victories on every public polls, great appreciation for the show, mobilitation by Dekker & co.
By other side, we have total silence: not a word from producers, authors , Fox.I heard that Dollhouse will be renewed cause of his good DVR numbers and good last episodes.
What can we expect on monday?
1) Not a word about TSCC (but it’s gonna be so…incorrect ! And a little absurd !)
2) A surprising renewal, also considering Salvaion’s coming out, making a big wave on the world of Terminator’s franchise
3) Not renewal of TSCC, and definitive (for now) goodbye.
Then, there are a lot of supposition: a later renewal because WB is waiting to see Salvation’s ratings in the cinema ecc…
But i think that everyone we could do, we did, and we are doing now for TSCC.
Keep fighting, this silence is sign that something (i don’t know if positive or negative) it’s going on !!
FFFOOOOXXX AND WWAAAAARRRRNNNEEERRRRR BRROOOSSSSS !!!!!!!
Just read in my morning paper that Dollhouse will be renewed despite low ratings. Where does that put us with TSCC??
@Mel
> Where does that put us with TSCC??
Where is timeslot for TSCC? May be nowhere if Dollhouse renewed.
But we haven’t any news about T:TSCC and I still hope.
The most important thing to remember is that, whatever happens on Monday, most fans should feel proud of their fight to get a season 3. We are in the right.
@ innocent
Absolutely !
Remember: probably the’re deciding in these hours…silence in because speeches are going on (i suppose). And if there’s a speech , there’s hope.
Ok, question: are you sure is there a speech ?
Yes…because if not, we would have known it since a lot of time !
They renewed Dollhouse ! Come on and renew TSCC too for a Sci-Fi night !!!
FFFOOOXX and WWAARRNNEERR BROOOSS !
FFOOOXXXX and WWAARRNNEEERR BRROOSSS !!
FFOOOOXXX AND WAARRNNNEERRRR BRROOSSSS !!!!!!
“It’s interesting how easily the alleged Dollhouse renewal leaked but nothing is said about T:SCC Is that a good or bad sign?”
I think It’s bad sign. Very bad sign…. :S I fear…. Serously I can’t wait until Monday.
@franz
Quit with the whining, please. Let’s just wait and see.
@Logan No problem. Returning to my fetal position, hoping for the best.
(Kidding, having a great weekend.)
Post if anyone hears anything.
@ logan
it is what i’m doing now man…i assure you!
Wait for some news!
FFOOXX and WWAARNNEERRRBRROOOSSS
@ Tim so you think that a renewal is easier to be leaked than a cancellation? No I think that it does not mean anything.
Bomb Drop- The Virus
Global Crisis E.P.
Keep on Running- Crux
Keep on Running E.P.
FYI, this was posted by @ashman a few hours ago:
ashman01 Guys, we seriously know nothing about the show. We’re as confused by the complete lack of information as you are
@Fuji
Thanks for the info. In Ash we trust.
In science the best explanation is always the simplest that answer every question. We’ve read all sorts of theories about what the attitude and silence of FOX may mean. To me it seems that the simplest explanation is that they have some very difficult choices to make. Their lives might have been easier if we, the Resistance, wouldn’t have fought so fiercely.
I say to them: that is passion and dedication will do for you.
Really I think if fox knew for sure what they wanted to do it would have leaked by now. I mean most other shows fate have leaked by now, there’s no reason to keep it a secret now. they can hold the official announcement ti Monday as planned, but why keep even the people on the inside in the black at this point? so I think fox might really want to renew it, but just doesn’t see a realistic way to do it as of now. and maybe not ever.
I think its odd that there hasn’t even been any negotiations going down yet that we’re aware.
Regardless, c’mon Monday, we cant take this anymore.
Do they not know how strong the resistance is? I’m pretty sure the conglomerate known as the resistance has as much financial pull as fox. Heck we could finance the show.
Long Live La Resistance!
@ Kea. I miss talking to you too. I’ve wondered where you’ve been. If the worst happens we may have to find a place to keep in touch and we can write our own story line week to week. I’m still maintaining high hopes until we hear the announcement though.
I’m not sure why Fox is taking all the heat. Fox wants to make money and for that to happen WB has to sweeten the deal in some way (e.g. lower licensing fees). And for that to happen WB needs to believe that it will be able to make money on the deal, which basically comes down to making the show on a lower budget and selling lots of DVDs. Not much we can do about lowering the show’s budget.
According to JF T:SCC is actually average in expenses for what it costs to make a network telivision show. It’s more expensive than cable shows obviously but no, it’s not over the top expensive in comparison to Dollhouse for example. I think season two’s lack of big explosions only helps to underline that.
What really took up a lot of cash (I think) was the shooting on location everywhere, which is cool, but I would prefer more action if I were to choose between the two. And with the show now taking place in the future I think JF has the same thing in mind.
I love you Summer!
Ok, I’ll play Dan Hitchman’s rol one more time in his absence.
I think that we are a little tense here because of the wait, so maybe it’s time to chill out with some good music. “All we need is just a little patience”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MSN82jU3sg
I meant to say “role“, sorry.
Alexis (aka Dan): Thanks for not posting the lyrics!!
Hey guys, Don’t stop voting for Summer on the Favorite female poll. She’s dropped 3% since she broke 20M. The Mylies are trying to catch up. The war is still on. Vote Vote Vote.
I hope that the producers of TSCC are waiting for the box office returns for Terminator Salvation. I think Salvation is going to be a blockbuster.
@ Snake…I’ve been around. I pop in to read the blog, just haven’t posted in a while. But I’m here. I’m reading.
I’m still staying optimistic about a S3…then we can really talk some more. But we need more fan fiction that’s for sure. And a back up place just in case.
I was thinking about the lack of no news on TSCC and that T4 opens the week we find out TSCC’s fate. I view the movies and TV show as being separate but this does not mean the elements might parallel each other and you have some crossing over. I mean people are messing with the time line.
But notice both the TSCC ending for S2 and the start of the T4 movie sound the same. JC in the future as just a resistance fighter. Not the leader.
I do find that very interesting. Maybe the WB wants to tie TSCC into the movie and then back to the TV show. You know ride the movie then lead them to the TV show. Who knows. We just better get a S3 with Cameron and Jameron goodness in it. And I want to see a TSCC ad air before T4!!!
Come on S3 somewhere…anywhere!!!
@Kea: I hope the franchise realizes that the show and the film series are now inseparable. One brilliant move that JF made was to mess with the timeline so now you can tell an infinite number of stories about the same characters without getting fans irate that the show and the films don’t jive. There is a great plausible explanation for anything they want to do in the series while the films can follow their own track. But the franchise always ties back to the main characters in either venue.
I can’t wait for T4 (only a few more days) but I’m dying to see what lengths JC will goto to find and reconstitute Cameron. I think the scene with them in the motel set the stage for some heroic measures. The part where Cameron tells him “John, it’s time to go” right when he looked ready to do just the opposite (lol) leads me to believe his hormones will drive him to extremes since mommy isn’t there to stop him. It has the makings of some great television.
may 17th… one more day
summer said she was questioned about whether or not she would like to be one of the upcoming terminator movies (as a resistance fighter) by one of the producers. to say there is no link between the two is untrue. the haylcon company is a producer of both the movie and the series.
could be that there has been some grand chess game going on right under our noses, then again it’s hollywood home of the chaos
Nick is that really you? You forgot to say: I LOVE YOU SUMMER!! LOL
New FanTrailer is out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQSoESiwaUo
Tomorrow is th DAY!!!!
JWE, you are just so ahead of the competition it isn’t even fair.
One day I want to hear Cameron say “I’m not just a machine” like Marcus says in the movie… I will jizz in my pants when that happens.
AWESOME trailer JWE~ Love the voice overs that you used and how well it mash up with the different scenes. Those are really great scenes too.
FOX should definitely hire you to do their promo trailers next season. YOU GET IT! =D
Oh this is such better knews then “oh well canceled” this is by far the best show on TV and seriously the 1 thing i look forward to watching every week. so heres hoping that we get a season 3!!
Thanks JWE. I hadn’t tune in to the blog for sometime but I did because I had a feeling that something worth it had been added: it was your trailer. Watching it reinforces my belief that nobody in their right mind will cancel that show: it is that good.
Let’s just hope that intelligence and power will coincide at FOX for that to happen. Money will follow I have no doubt.
@JWE
I will repeat here what I said already on Youtube and Twitter (and next on TerminatorWiki): You are incredible. How can you manage to get me goose bumps with each new TSCC trailer?
We must have a season 3 to give you new materials for your promos. Hope you get a job on TSCC for their promos! We should start a petition for that if we are renewed!
Please, continue to amaze us! It reminds me each time why I fight for this show and why I like it so much!
Thanks JWE!
Great work JWE. You do far better promos than Fox. I would definitely sign a petition to have you do the S3 promo after it is announced tomorrow.
@JWE: your videos are totally made of awesome!
@everyone: JF and AEM were at the savethescc chat last night. They said they expect to find out when the Fox upfronts come out Monday, just like the rest of us. JF said he was told a month ago to prepare two press releases, one for renewal and one for cancellation. He has prepared neither. He said he plans to wait to hear the news first.
Thank you so much guys
@ JWE
You have perfectly understood what a TSCC trailer HAVE TO be !
It’ s great ! Powerful images and an irresistible rythm…damn. Really Good works on frames !
Why didn’t Fox call you before ??!
It’s a great honour to fight with you all guyz to renew this show.
I think that we showed Fox what TSCC fanbase is able to do; struggling is our fate !
So now, waitin for tomorrow here, far italy…
And for them who don’t have yet understood, i tell you that this is not told in a “whine” mode , but in a “convincing” (with a bit of rage !) mode:
FFFOOOXXXX AND WWAARRRNNNEERRRR BRRROOOSSSSS !!!!!!!!!!
Sure you guys have seen this but what the hell http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7B2IYR-HCo&feature=PlayList&p=E88A979DC9E76E53&index=1
@Chris V
Yes, I’ve seen it. I’m one the 15000+ viewers!
Just dropping by to say thanks to the TSCC crew for the lovely 2 seasons. Hopefully, there will be many more of them
This might be the last time I post here (it all depends on tomorrow’s announcement), so a big cheers to every TSCC fan out there. And remember, there’s no fate but what we make for outselves!
“Maybe the WB wants to tie TSCC into the movie and then back to the TV show. You know ride the movie then lead them to the TV show.”
I agree, Kea. And I think that there wouldn’t be a better way to tie in McG’s trilogy with TSCC than introducing Summer Glau as Alison Young AND Cameron Phillips in T5/T6. That would be truly amazing.
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@Snake (May 16th, 2009 at 9:45 pm): LOL!!
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“summer said she was questioned about whether or not she would like to be one of the upcoming terminator movies (as a resistance fighter) by one of the producers. to say there is no link between the two is untrue. the haylcon company is a producer of both the movie and the series.
could be that there has been some grand chess game going on right under our noses[...]“
I suspect the same, nick85. That would be a master move.
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@JWE: WOW!!! AWESOME!!
Just dropped in before on a major chat session with JF and Ash. Many fun and interesting questions seems to have been asked by fans. Has anyone compiled any smart Q & A from that chat log yet?
Well, good luck everyone!!. I guess tomorrow is our J-day. This is the only show I’ve ever emailed, voted, texted, blogged about. I’m sure the same can be said for a number of people here–I hope the Fox powers-that-be will realize what a strong following this show actually has.
Does anyone know how or where Fox will release the new lineup tomorrow? Do they have an official site for that? Thanks…
Wow, JWE! Just saw your trailer and it gave me goosebumps!!
What’s up with some of the other shows coming back for only 13 episodes. How in the heck does a network expect anyone to get invested in a show when they’re only giving it a half of a season. Why can’t networks just have the nads and go for it.
Give us a FULL season FOX!!
New poll: http://io9.com/5258498/which-season-finale-was-the-best
Lost fans are winning this one:
Lost 48% (546 votes)
Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles 24% (275 votes)
Let’s show them The Resistance won’t give up!!
Cool, another poll. Let’s rock this one too for old times sake.
Good luck tomorrow, they can’t say we didn’t give it our all. Finger, toes, and nuts crossed!!
http://io9.com/5258498/which-season-finale-was-the-best
Vote people now! May not have an affect on Fox. But come on Lost’s season finale wasn’t as mind blowing as T:SCC’s season finale.
Chuck officially got picked up.
I know it is probably too late, but I purchased first several episodes of Season 2 on X-Box. I really enjoyed Samson and Delilah. Anyone who staples their face deserves a third season. Tomorrow I hope for good news on Terminator.
We came back from behind and are now ahead of Lost by a mere 40% to 39%: keep voting.
I will say my fondest farewells here again people(just in-case).
If this site gets pulled, I’ll be at the official WIKI until it goes down too. My username over there is CromeArtie(Wolfie was already taken).
NO FATE, comrades.
RCN says: cranks the
Congrats to you on Chuck’s survival, Dustin.
It’s 01:25 here in Ireland..
So technically..today is the day we find out.
*crosses fingers*
|I’m trying to be positive but I’ve got a bad feelinlos
Well it looks like we are not going to be picked up for a season 3, they are pairing human target with dollhouse on friedays and the roster is now full……frak me!
http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/05/foxs-fall-schedule-.html
even though i like dollhouse i’m no lomger watching at all fox has lost me as a viewer.
Phil, it already has changed and ‘Human Target’ isn’t in the picture for the beginning of the season. Nothing has replaced it on Fridays yet.
Those bloggers are just full of crap to the brim.
Bad news from Michael Ausiello: http://twitter.com/EWAusielloFiles
Damn it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tweet from Ashman
ashman01[khan mode disengaged] I have no idea what the THR report means or doesn’t mean. I do know we haven’t heard anything. Watch this space.
Please, stop with the morose defeatism. Nothing is official yet. Wait for the announcement before you get depressed.
http://twitter.com/ashman01
Here is where they are posting the edited chat logs as they become available
http://www.savethescc.com/transcript.html
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3ibd965fb07c296111d7b2690b8a38b796
The panorama doesn’t look any good. Let’s hope they didn’t mention TSCC because Fox didn’t give the official word yet. Otherwise, it could mean the worst news.
They cancel this show and keep Dollhouse?! That is so…lame. The only reason I watched Dollhouse at all becaues it was after this show.
Thanks for the good news, Dustin. I swear I couldn’t sleep last night thinking of Chuck’s fate, and you came here with such a great piece of news. That’s great. Thank you so much.
Oh, btw, it looks like you’re truly interested on TSCC, and especially now that’s on the edge of cancellation. Oh, man, I was so distrustful to you, I’m so sorry… Fortunately, if the show gets cancelled, we’ll have no reason to be sad because, thanks to you, we’ll have the wonderful opportunity of turning into huge fans of Chuck just as you turned into a huge fan of TSCC. Such a master plan, huh? Good for you.
http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/05/foxs-fall-schedule-.html UPDATE: Removed “Human Target” from Fridays, we’re hearing that late fall or midseason is far more likely.
@Rafael: I will not believe that until the official word comes out.
Wow if the news of TSCC not getting picked up is true, Fox really dropped the ball on this one. With T:Salvation coming out this weekend, they have a chance to increase ratings by huge numbers. Also Dollhouse was ok but I certainly wont be tuning into that or anything else on Fox.
Ill wait till tomorrow to see it officially before I post anything more I am just stunned they are not going to capitalize on Salvation…Idiots.
@Vinny: Couldn’t agree more.
and how about renewing dollhouse and adding human target? Good call Fox for having Carbon Copy shows…
Im glad we have made it this far and i hope this will not be they end.
We can still save the world… Just might be a lil harder
Great Soldiers now all we can do is Hope. COME ON FOX!!!!!!!!!!
OH GOD PLZ!!!!!
From
http://twitter.com/skynextpodcast
Just got an email from a source at FOX saying (unconfirmed) #TSCC for 13 episodes on Fridays in the fall, then Human Target in the spring.34 minutes ago from Tweetie
Is this true? Please, let it be true!
@starkiller: I was about to post the same news. Maybe there’s still hope.
“Terminator” and “Human Targets”: aren’t those two just destined to be together?
http://io9.com/5258498/which-season-finale-was-the-best
We’re only 20 votes ahead on this poll people. Are we falling down on the job?
god pls let that be true
Re: starkiller
“http://io9.com/5258498/which-season-finale-was-the-best
We?re only 20 votes ahead on this poll people. Are we falling down on the job?”
I’m trying to hold them off, but someone’s multi-voting for Lost. A little help?
Re: Kim
I’m trying to hold them off, but someone’s multi-voting for Lost. A little help?
Help is on the way…and from an unexpected source!!! That’s drama!
Oh boy just read some terrible news guys…..We fought the good fight! It was a fun roller coaster ride. The terminator that blindsided derek reese just took me down and notch. I feel helpless. Why do I always back the losers. Oh well best of luck to you all and Godspeed.
Eman, we’re up over 100 votes thanks to you, soldier! Heal up, we’ve still more terminators to fry. Show’s not over yet.
Anyone else feel that 5.0 quake in LA?
JF hates spoilers and ours is the only show to not have a leak?
I’m expecting good news.
I have read good news and bad news. I won’t believe anything until it’s official. I will never watch fox again, Fringe, or anything else if it’s not renewed. I will feel cheated. I have high hopes, but I will be sad if it doesn’t get renewed. I I have never cared for a tv how like this one. I am even praying. PLEASE FOX, don’t let a masterpiece die.
In a blog report 3 hours ago zapit reported that official fox sources had confirmed that Terminator Sarah Connor Chronicles would not be renewed. This, on top of Dollhouse being renewed instead, I think it’s fair game to say that this timeless series ended with season two’s finale.
The only thing I ask is not for us to discuss why they made this decision or what went wrong where but rather focus on what we liked most about the show and carry its memories and lessons with us.
To the crew thank you for all the hard work you put into it, the cast you did an outstanding job of performing, and the writers - you certainly know how to tell a story.
Oh and as always,
I LOVE YOU SUMMER!!!
@Jday
Me to. Me too.
@ nick85, I hope it’s not true. If it is I am very sad now. Please don’t let it be true. If it is, then I thank you all. I hope that it will be renewed on another station.
Wolfie! I can talk! Finally!
I’ve been following this blog since the first E! poll and have been gettin moderated the whole time. Until my last post, that is.
Not until Judgment Day do they let the dude with the Jday nick on.
Yeah, I wanna be careful not say too much, but my read on S3 is ver y positive.
Guys, stop panicking!
Blogs are all in competition so, if one starts a rumor, all the other blogs feel compelled to give it an echo, otherwise they’ll look like they aren’t in the loop. Am I saying that most of them, if not all of them confabulate? Hell yes!
So stop repeating that shit yourselves, try to keep your guts together and wait with patience and confidence.
RCN says: the steadier
You are right, let’s not believe anything until it’s official. I will let go of the rumors and just wait. Thanks innocent. I feel a bit better.
I’m with Victor and Vinny, if they cancel T:SCC I will boycott Fox and it’s advertisers and will send letters to let them know why.
If we happen to lose I propose for all of you that feel the same that we email or write Fox informing them we will no longer be viewing ANY of their programs (TV and film). Let them sleep on that! Can you imagine if Start Trek was abandonded after one or two seasons. There is no reason the Terminator legacy can not be as valuable a franchise.
Agreed. Let’s hold our mud until it’s official. I still have a glimmer of optimism here.
If you were an exec producer or a studio head , could you have played this any better than they have? Build the fan frenzie to a crescendo right before the releqase of tyhe film.
Theyve kept it secret not to announce a cancellation.
If the worst happens I am proud to be a part of this community. You guys all feel the way I do, and I am glad to share this with a cool group of people. We are unique to see the true beauty of Terminator. The majority doesn’t mean the BEST!! There are crappy shows and movies that the MAJORITY like, so lets be proud of what we are fans of. Let’s hope for the best!!!
I’m proud to stand with you Victor, and all of the Resistance. You called it a masterpiece, and I couldnt agree more. This show is something special, and really rare. Its captured peoples hearts and minds like none other.
Good luck T:SCC!
I hope to hear some good news from FOX in the AM.
I just started following Josh Friedman’s Twitter — so hopefully that will
make Monday a good start of the week.
JF, Ashman, Hadley, anybody out there?
Fiction is supposed to represent life, but in this campaign to save TSCC, life has imitated art. I didnt know which way the sword of Damocles would fall until Thomas Dekker posted his vid on You tube. It was just like JC coming to talk to the Resistance. That was the tip off.
JF, you put him up to that, didnt you? Gimme a wink, anyway, I earned that much, no?
Okay guys, it’s time to help out our girl while we wait for news. We are the resistance. We don’t give on any front. Right now the Miley Cyrus crowd is eating away at Summer’s lead. Cyrus is up to 7.1M and Summer has stalled at 20.5M. Let’s jump in and put them in their place if for no other reason than this is something that is within our control. Here’s the link again
http://www.tv.com/favorite-tv-stars/female/index.html
It didn’t only capture people’s minds, it also built a strong Resistance. I’ve never seen such mobilization from fans before. Here, on the eve of TSCC’s J-Day, we make history.
No other show in the history of all shows can say it has done what we have done, what we’ve accomplished to get to this point. I never thought I would be part of such a strange, yet worthwhile movement. Good TV is trying to make a comeback. We need to help make that happen.
This is too good. I’ve been getting my junky ass moderated out of here for the last 6 weeks and now finally tonight I can post, and theres nobody to talk to.
Has everybody crashed?
Isnt it time for the international crew to take up their shift?
Hello hello, if you are reading this you are the Resistance. VLR!!!!!
I’m on it, Snake!
I’m here, lurking….waiting for anything resembling news.
I am gonna be pretty irritated if they do/did not renew this series but Dollhouse got the nod w/ lower ratings(and yes I know DH is cheaper production cost wise). Was really excited, going to see the T:Salvation premiere today too, but if this is not renewed the movie will lose a lot of the luster in my eyes
I think remembering that the official announcement will be made some time at the beginning of the evening: am I right?
I think when this blog post hits 1000 replies we get the good news
If FOX cancels T:SCC it will hurt the movie, marginally, but does FOX care that much about a WB project?
I also feel that many, maybe a majority of the Dollhouse viewers were T:SCC viewers first who will become frustrated enough with FOX to hurt Dollhouse in its rating quite seriously, if T:SCC gets the boot.
I hate playing the waiting game, and I hate Ausiello for tossing around the “official” tag without backing it up with a credible source. If I counted correctly, this is now the 4th time he has declared the show officially dead.
Hack. He needs to go back to crying over Grey’s Anatomy.
I’m back from helping out brother Snake…
Yeah, Hadley’s been promising to come on here and throw us a bone forever. We hit our 1000 repies, wheres our treat?
I thought last night’s chat with JF was really fascinating, and revealing. The dude is maniac about spoilers. I thought it fit well with this weird mystery of no leaks or rumors about our show.
http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/04/fall-tv-cheat-s.html
Yeah. Very official when his source hasn’t been revealed. Right now it would be great to see Ausiello have to change that cancellation status again if his “source” is wrong again.
Although this time perhaps, despite his irritating work ethics, he may be right.
Crappy weather right now, it’s raining. Perhaps a storm is coming.
Out here where they film TSCC, its clear.
The weather is beautiful.
If they don’t renew us BOYCOTT EVERYTHING FOX and definitely send them e-mails to let them know why!
Come on come on come on come on. Please make me a happy person while i am at home off work ill today.
Cough! Cough!
Lost is starting to catch up to us in this poll. C’mon guys, we’ve gotta show them that the Resistance terminates every poll right up through the very last one, even on Judgment Day.
http://io9.com/5258498/which-season-finale-was-the-best
good morning guyz,
i’m here waiting for some good news !
Ah, it would be beautiful if all this had been built only to rise up our attention and spreading our love for Tscc in the world…
All this mistery….is incredible.
Thanx to you , and i’m proud to be a member of the Resistance.
Fox, and Warner Bros. Come on. I ask you last time.
Good morning, Franz
This is it, our Judgment Day. We fought well, didnt we?
We gave it our all. We should be proud.
Brian, don’t bother, boycotts don’t even register on companies, and that’s when there’s quite a lot of people backing it up. Its just pointless. It doesn’t bring your show back, it doesn’t do anything but make you miss out on other fantastic shows that Are worth watching and getting renewed. besides, I highly doubt even you could follow through with it. its just too dramatic, shutting out everything Fox, even if/when they come up with the next brilliant must see show, say next year.
If it turns out its canceled, it just wasn’t meant to be. I think Dollhouse only got renewed because its being givin the same second chance Terminator did. Yes, Terminator ending on an up trend, while Dollhouse ended going down, but their also on their first season. They probably think/hope it can still get enough word of mouth going before its too late to get better. Terminator on the other hand, was still pretty low compared to other hit shows, even compared to the first season. and it has since lost its fresh factor so people are less likely to jump in at this point.
But I still have a tiny bit of hope left in me. fingers crossed for tomorrow. hope to find out for sure when I wake up. hope its good news, but it’ll take a miracle.
..i have just reading the last news ot the cancl rumors and i am very disappointing of course i don’t trust Ausiello he had oftent wrong at final until there….and i hope one more time he is wrong ….
I hope for you and for us it’s false…i will wiat this night (it’s begining of the afternnon in France)
Kyle, no one said anything about missing out. There’s these wonderful little things called torrents that allow international viewing, crystal clear stutter free viewing without commercials in up to 720p HD (which is as high as Fox goes). I’ve been watching Terminator Live, and again via DVR, and again on FOD or Hulu with friends and family, and of course I have my Blu-Ray pre-ordered (as should everyone on here). But, the most convenient and highest quality releases coming the quickest after an episode airs, come from torrents, and they generate no revenue for the company. Just saying, boycotts aren’t really that hard to pull off anymore. Next season’s Fox lineup can feasibly be owned without DRM and for free. Supporting your favorite shows is great but when a company turns its back on you, you don’t just shut up and take it, sleepwalking through life like so many American Idol zombies. No you turn your back on it! Have some self respect.
@jday
we fight as hell. It’s sure, and i’m proud of this, as you are.
Sometimes it’s so sad thinking about Tv’s rules…but that’s it.
Anyhow, there’s hope again, i think.
All this silence is really incredible. A Tv colossus as Fox doesn’t seem able to express a certain answer about Tscc destiny, and this really makes me wonder: what’s going on ?!?
Going lunch. Wait, wait, wait…
P.s.: Ausiello ? Mmhh…who is he?
Scheduling chief at FOX Preston Beckman speaks of the next season and I feel heartened that he says specifically that FOX tries to minimize the number of new shows for fall, that FOX is going to take some serious risks and that there will be some real surprises in the line-up.
http://www.tvweek.com/news/2009/05/fox_focuses_on_stability_in_up.php
Hadley comments on Twitter: “i’m good now listen to me i don’t want to go i’m sorry it wasn’t me, i’m fixed now i ran a test everything’s perfect you can trust me…”
I know how you feel, Hadley.
Meanwhile Skynext seems to have a source (though unconfirmed) by email saying that Fox may have given the show a chance of 13 episodes - just like Dollhouse. Remember Skynext have listeners who work on T:SCC and would probably not say anything if they really got an email. (Always a chance of fake emails, but it sounds more trustworthy than Ausellio who has been wrong soo many times by now.)
Hang in there…
unfortunately i think he was probably referring to dollhouse there. They got even lower ratings than we did. You never know though…
Correction: Remember Skynext have listeners who work on T:SCC. The Skynext people would probably not say who they really got the email from.
@Innocent
It seems that Fox may make some gutsy decisions and try a interesting business strategy if they keep more underdog shows.
I think the entire brodcasting industry must look at their practices, both what and how they create revenue, produce, market and distribute their products. I think (and hope) both bigger broader shows will have to share schedule with strong yet smaller shows. I think a development towards towards this will happen due to the fragmented media consumption habits in the information world today.
Scripted television has made the right choice of becoming more diverse and advance compared to just a couple of years ago. Producing good innovative television shows should not be affected too greatly by pressure of creating revenues. New challenges in the changing media landscape should not lie on the makers of different TV shows, but is something broadcasting networks need to adapt too and solve themselves.
I think it’s only when the networks break common practices, try new business models and break free from traditional strategies and develop new technological distribution solutions, and new ways to communicate with viewers - only when that happens can one see some real progress in this industry. (And hopefully save some great TV shows in the process.)
@MattLive
I hope you’re right. Back in the day when FOX was just getting started, I remember they were the only network that was will to take on shows that weren’t exactly mainstream. They have since become like all the rest of the networks. That would be great if they went back to their original roots and be willing to take chances. They have become like the rest with all of those cheap to produce reality shows.
What is plan B?
Is there a fall back point to regroup and try and convenience WB? Despite some peoples claims you will find I am here to help. Is there another message board to regroup at that Fox wont close? More so then ever you have my undivided assistance.
In a late night chat, that I missed with Josh, and ash, there IS no plan b. Its the fall on fox, or your season 1 and 2 dvds.
They aren’t even going to try to pitch the show to another network? I find that hard to believe, if there really is no plan b, Allan, then everyone involved loses a lot of respect from me. What could we do, send letters, e-mails, vote. Those guys could actually have a dialog with the decision makers, make plans, possible scripts for season 3, pitch new ideas for the show, whatever they need to to get a green light. What have they done, well we don’t know, they haven’t updated us in a while. If Fox drops it, WB could put it on another network. If not we as fans will have been seriously kicked in the teeth after all we have done.
Dustin and other who worry (Jon must not be far
Hi Jon 
):
I can’t believe that FOX won’t give us one day or two of respite to grieve and regroup after the announcement. We will advise then.
Good of you to stick around.
I hope by the end of the day TSCC is not off the grid. Waiting patiently for a renewal.
Lets hope the resistance works.
is every single TWITTER asleep?
What time is it over there?
Lucila: 10am
Maybe they died holding their breath?
Lol. It’s 11 am here… wait, I think? xP
No cellphone-my usual clock-and this computer is set to Italy… I always forget those time-difference issues.
Well, it’s either 10 or 11, here.
Ashman wrote not too long ago, though.
http://twitter.com/ashman01
Waiting with baited breath…
So whats up now?!?!
Anybody knows whenexactly FOX will announce it’s fall schedules???
OMG!!!! i think im going to die…this tension is really killing me..last night was horrible, i wake up with this horrible nightmares..i need to know the answer now before i go crazy…
I fell asleep way after 3 AM… woke up around 7/8…
@SaveTerminator:
Stay positive… so far all cancellation reports are speculative and/or derived from EW’s old rumors, nothing official.
I read somewhere it will be announced on EST time-zone?
Dude, I’m still about 2 hours ahead from that.
Save TSCC, Save Cameron, please Fox Save the show!!!!!!
Hungarian Fan
Just popping in on J Day with my fingers and toes crossed for good news…. In any case, it’s been an honor to be part of the Resistance and slugging it out on the email/poll voting front with everyone!
Hang in there baby!
Sad.
http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/05/bubble-show-upd.html?cnn=yes
gist of it: • Fox: Sarah Connor Chronicles has been officially canceled.
FRACK HEADS!
Like Dube siad…no matter how the result will be, it was an honour to me as well!
officially where?!
Grrrr…Hopefully an intelligent network picks it up. BEST SHOW ON TV!
Variety says its source is Fox. T:SCC is not on this schedule
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118003860.html?categoryId=14&cs=1
looks bad……..
They say that the schedules (fall and winter) were announced this morning but where? What kind of stupid and disrespectful game is this?
NO, NO, NO, NO!
http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/05/foxs-official-fall-schedule-.html
I saw the official fall schedules. Terminator is not on there. I there is still a chance for winter, or on another network. I am feeling sad now.
Rescued fan favorite “Dollhouse” returns on Fridays, but with a modest lead in from new comedy “Brothers” and utility player “Til Death” that seem unlikely to reverse its ratings woes. (And, yes, “Terminator” is canceled).
WTF? Since when is DOLLHOUSE a ‘rescued fan favorite’? TSCC beat all their a$$e$ on every single poll!
http://twitter.com/ashman01
F@ck it, I’m crying now.
Not even gonna watch that gorram channel for the simpsons-which I didn’t actually watch lately.
I hate FOX now. They can kiss my big ass. I cannot believe that they renewed Dollhouse instead. Dollhouse is a horrible show. Eliza Dushku needs to get some acting lessons, and the premise is a bore. I am just so pissed!!
we shouldn’t even be on this gorram fox site.. if it wasn’t the producer’s blog…
f@ck those f@ckers! (FOX’s)
Noooo…… gorramn it… I don’t even know, what to say…
I dont believe it till I see it on THIS blog.
F@ck fox!! Dollhouse is a horrible show!
how in gods name does Dollhouse get renewed but not Terminator?! Dollhouse is seriously one of the most boring and just generally stupid shows i’ve ever sat through an episode of…makes no sense at all.
@Kate:
Ashley continues posting stuff on twitter… well, ocasionally.
Although, why haven’t I seen Hadley or anybody post anything on the blog? I want to see what they Hadley has to say.
Dollhouse’s numbers tanked even lower then TSCC . . . it doesn’t make any sense at all.
Will you people GET A GRIP?!?!? Go on Fox’s OFFICIAL WEBSITE and check the shows. TERMINATOR IS ON THERE!!!!!!!!! As long as there is life, there is hope…
http://www.fox.com/shows.htm
Baron Loki:
How often do they truly update that? They can’t just delete a whole portion of their site, either.
Now that Prison Break is gone and LOST ends in 2010, there won’t be a single good TV show left. Okay, Prison Break’s fourth season was aweful and LOST was laid out for six seasons, but Terminator definitely should have gone on. I don’t get it, how stupid Fox can be.
Any chance, that this airs on a network, that is not totally blind?
also, it doesn’t show any timing set for the show (unlike the others)
JF had said that there was no plan B. skynextpodcast had a transcript.
Lucila:
You have a good point on how often they update it, but actually, they CAN delete a whole portion of their site…
I am hoping that Sci FI or the CW will take i under their wing.
Lucila:
You have a good point on how often they update it, but actually, they CAN delete a whole portion of their site…
They can, obviously, but I don’t think they’d do it just like that. Too gorram fast.
I’m off, now, been here most of the morning.. and I hafta mourn.
Nice meetin’ y’all. u.u
OK, now is no time to be bitter.
The news are pretty certain for me since Ashman has twittered that he was going to miss working on T:SCC and that he would now be working on Fringe. A man has to earn a living… He’s been a good friend all along, just like Hadley has.
I don’t want to be bitter. I stopped watching Dollhouse by episode 6: the level of acting and of direction in this show was simply abysmal. Maybe it has gotten much better afterward.
OK guys, it has been great fun being in your company. Hopefully you will all live long and rewarding lives.
Jean
Unfortunately, it seems unlikely that another network will renew it if (and I stress the word if) Fox cancels it.
well I’m now done with fox
omg…i feel terrible..im cryng and cant stop.. i know its not the end of the world, but this was the only show i watch on tv right now..i can believe it…im so sad…
I never really watched FOX until TSCC came on. Won’t be watching it anymore.
I just read an article on ign saying that its been official that fox canceled the show.
Well even though I was watching Fringe, it’s over for me too. Don’t care about FOX anymore. So bye FOX!!!!!!!
This REALLY sucks - it was the one show i really looked forward to watching ON MONDAY NIGHTS. I will miss it quite a bit.
TO THE PRODUCERS: YOUR FANS INVESTED ALOT IN THIS SHOW AND LOVED IT. PLEASE DON’T LEAVE US HANGING LIKE SO SO MANY OTHER SHOWS DO WHEN THEY GET CANCELED PRE-MATURELY. LET US KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. A LETTER - A BOOK - A GRAPHIC NOVEL - WE’LL BUY IT - LET US KNOW!!!!!!!!!!! please!!!!!!!!
Yea same here. This show was the only thing i watched on tv and now its gone. SCREW FOX!!!!!!!
Guess it means that the term:
“Welcome to the SCC, bitch” never have a chance to become popular.
ashman01 says on Twitter:
“I just saw Variety. Everyone fought the good fight, but the fight appears to be over. I’ll leave any proclamations to @Josh_Friedman”
We will however see Ash’s writing skills on Fringe apparently. Good luck, Ash. Thanks for hanging with the fans.
Anyway, looks like it is over. The show is not on for January either. A really ill-advised decision due to the long-term value of having the show based on the Terminator franchise on the network. They should have tried to make it work.
I really thought Reilly could’ve changed the network’s long-term commitment to smaller yet stronger shows with unique qualites, and with great scripts and talented actors. In a way Fox perhaps did (i.e Dollhouse), just not to the extent I’d hoped (like Season 3 of T:SCC, a show which at this time IS better than Dollhouse).
Perhaps we could’ve gotten a third season If only endoskeletons were a bit cheaper these days.
(Perhaps WB is up for DVD movies if no other channel would find the budget to pick it up. http://io9.com/5258428/an-unexpected-chance-to-see-tscc-again )
We definitely messed around with some polls showing how strong the fans dig the show and how the Obama-style-campaigning really can have an impact - however not always in our favour like the results has shown today. It’s just sad